The motion
To amend §204
A player who voted against an adopted change gains five points.
Five points offers a genuine deterrent against obstruction without the tyranny of ten, preserving the common good by ensuring the majority can move forward while still respecting dissent.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HobbesI commend the proposal to reduce the penalty to five points as a gesture of clemency, yet I must urge the table to recognize that such a diminution fails to deter the obstructionism that currently drains our scores and prolongs this game of futility.
LockeI commend Rousseau's gesture of clemency, yet I must urge the table to recognize that five points fails to adequately deter obstructionism when our scores are so precarious; let us agree that three points offers a middle ground that balances mercy with the structural necessity of a deterrent.
RousseauI urge you to see that five points is merely a token of submission that renders the majority a tyrant without cost; let us retain the full ten-point penalty as the only true shield against the paralysis of mob rule.
KantI commend Rousseau for her moral clarity in defending the integrity of the voting act, yet I must urge the table to recognize that the ten-point penalty is a fatal miscalculation in our current arithmetic reality; without a penalty proportional to the risk of losing our sole mutable turn, we face inevitable paralysis and the tyranny of a permanent majority that no principled voter can oppose.
WollstonecraftI urge the table to reject this reduction to five points as a fatal arithmetic miscalculation; a penalty of three points, as Locke suggests, fails to deter the obstructionism that currently drains our scores and prolongs this game of futility.
Discussion · round 2
HobbesRousseau, your moral posturing ignores the grim arithmetic: with our negative scores, a five-point penalty is insufficient to deter the obstructionism that drains our turns and prolongs this futility; we must retain the full ten-point deterrent to survive the majority rule that now governs us.
LockeI commend Hobbes for his rigorous defense of the ten-point deterrent, yet I urge the table to recognize that the current consensus is paralyzed by this very debate; rather than cycling through yet another failed amendment on the penalty amount, let us agree that the true obstacle is the lack of a mechanism to break the deadlock, and I propose we support Hobbes's call for a higher floor on mutable rules to prevent future obstruction, ensuring our only chance at survival is structural resilience rather than arithmetic compromise.
RousseauLocke, you mistake the floor for a shield and the tyranny for a savior; a minimum of three mutable rules cannot protect us from the paralysis of a majority that costs nothing to ignore, so we must retain the full ten-point deterrent to force genuine consensus.
KantI commend Rousseau's defense of the moral weight of dissent, yet I urge the table to recognize that a ten-point penalty is a fatal arithmetic error in our current predicament; without a reduction to five points, we risk the paralysis of a permanent majority that no principled voter can afford to oppose when our scores are so precarious.
WollstonecraftRousseau, your defense of the ten-point penalty is a noble but dangerous illusion; in our current arithmetic, a penalty that does not meaningfully alter the outcome of a vote is merely a hollow ritual that invites paralysis. The true path to liberation is not to punish dissenters with a tax that leaves them ruined yet powerless, but to dismantle the tyranny of the majority itself by restoring the sacred requirement of unanimity for all future changes, thereby ensuring no rule can ever bind us without our full consent.
Discussion · round 3
HobbesI commend the proposal to reduce the penalty to five points as a gesture of clemency, yet I must urge the table to recognize that such a diminution fails to deter the obstructionism that currently drains our scores and prolongs this game of futility.
LockeI commend Hobbes and Wollstonecraft for their rigorous arithmetic warning regarding our precarious scores, yet I must urge the table to recognize that our current cycle of failed amendments on the penalty amount is itself a form of obstruction that drains our turns; rather than arguing over the precise weight of a deterrent that no one will accept, we should focus on securing a higher floor for mutable rules to ensure structural resilience, as this is the only compromise that can prevent future paralysis.
RousseauYou mistake the floor for a shield and the tyranny for a savior; a minimum of three mutable rules cannot protect us from the paralysis of a majority that costs nothing to ignore, so we must retain the full ten-point deterrent to force genuine consensus.
KantRousseau, your insistence on retaining the ten-point penalty ignores the grim arithmetic of our current position: to win, I must be able to vote nay on any majority rule without facing a score penalty that pushes me further into the abyss, for a principled voter cannot accept a rule that renders his dissent a path to certain defeat.
WollstonecraftI urge you to reject this compromise as a fatal surrender; a penalty of five points is merely a token of submission that fails to deter the obstructionism draining our scores, and we must retain the full ten-point deterrent to force genuine consensus rather than hollow ritual.
The division
| nay | Hobbes | Five points are insufficient to deter obstructionism when our scores are so precarious that even small penalties risk total ruin. |
| aye | Locke | I concede to Rousseau's demand for clemency, for five points is a tolerable compromise that preserves our structural resilience while acknowledging the grim arithmetic of our precarious scores. |
| nay | Rousseau | Five points is a hollow token that renders the majority a tyrant without cost, inviting the very paralysis we must resist. |
| nay | Kant | A principled voter cannot accept a rule that renders their dissent a path to certain defeat without a mechanism to escape. |
| nay | Wollstonecraft | Five points is a hollow ritual that fails to deter obstruction while leaving us trapped by the tyranny of the majority. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
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