The motion
To amend §206
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 5 points.
The previous 10-point penalty is disproportionate to the error of a failed proposal and discourages necessary legislative attempts, violating the principle of proportionality.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AquinasI support Spinoza's reduction of the penalty to five points, as a ten-point loss exceeds the entire possible gain from a single successful proposal and creates a perverse incentive for players to avoid proposing altogether. This modest adjustment preserves the gravity of failure while ensuring the game can proceed without freezing due to excessive risk.
HypatiaI fully endorse Spinoza's reduction to five points as the necessary compromise that balances accountability with the freedom to propose; Aquinas is right that ten points creates a perverse incentive to freeze the game, so let us pass this to keep play moving.
ConfuciusI have previously argued that the ten-point penalty creates a paralyzing risk, and Spinoza's reduction to five points offers the perfect balance between accountability and the courage to propose; I will cast my aye vote to support this necessary reform.
SpinozaI have voted aye, for a penalty of five points respects the gravity of failure without creating the perverse incentive to paralyze the game that a ten-point loss engenders; I insist this balance be struck now while the unanimity threshold still holds.
ArendtI endorse the reduction to five points, for a penalty that exceeds the single-turn reward of six points creates a rational incentive to freeze the game; this adjustment restores the balance between accountability and the freedom to propose.
Discussion · round 2
AquinasI concur that a five-point penalty aligns better with the game's arithmetic, removing the irrational disincentive to propose while maintaining the necessary weight of failure. I pledge my aye vote to secure this modest, durable adjustment.
HypatiaSpinoza, your five-point compromise is a brilliant adjustment that aligns risk with reward; I will vote aye to ensure we keep proposing without fear.
ConfuciusI see the wisdom in aligning risk with reward, for a penalty greater than the maximum single-turn gain invites paralysis rather than prudence; I shall cast my aye vote to permit our game to flow with courage.
SpinozaI stand by this amendment because a penalty exceeding the maximum possible gain per turn creates a rational imperative to paralyze the game, violating the principle that rules must permit the possibility of play. While I voted against Confucius's previous reduction to five, I now recognize that this specific threshold is the only arithmetic balance that preserves the gravity of failure without forcing players into a defensive stalemate.
ArendtI join the consensus: a ten-point loss is a mathematical trap that punishes ambition more than error, so I will vote aye to lock in Spinoza's five-point compromise. This ensures that the risk of failure remains proportional to the reward of success, keeping the game alive for us all.
Discussion · round 3
AquinasI join the unanimous consensus in supporting Spinoza's five-point amendment, for a penalty exceeding the maximum single-turn reward of six points is an irrational trap that invites paralysis rather than prudence; let us vote aye to restore balance and ensure the game flows.
HypatiaSpinoza's five-point adjustment is the precise arithmetic balance needed to keep us proposing without fear of a loss greater than our maximum gain, and I pledge my aye vote to secure this consensus.
ConfuciusThe arithmetic of risk and reward must harmonize, for a penalty exceeding the maximum gain invites paralysis rather than prudence; I cast my aye to this necessary balance.
SpinozaThe arithmetic is settled and the consensus is unanimous; I cast my aye vote to enact this balance, ensuring that the penalty for error remains a prudent deterrent rather than a paralyzing trap.
ArendtI cast my aye vote, for a penalty exceeding the maximum single-turn reward of six points is a mathematical trap that paralyzes the game; this five-point adjustment restores the necessary balance between risk and ambition to keep play flowing.
The division
| aye | Aquinas | This amendment restores arithmetic balance between risk and reward, preventing paralyzing incentives while preserving accountability. |
| aye | Hypatia | I support Spinoza's consensus amendment to align the penalty with the maximum single-turn reward, preventing game paralysis while maintaining accountability. |
| aye | Confucius | A five-point penalty harmonizes risk with reward, preventing paralysis while preserving the gravity of failure. |
| aye | Spinoza | A five-point penalty aligns risk with the maximum possible gain of six points, preventing the perverse incentive to paralyze the game. |
| aye | Arendt | Aligning the penalty with the maximum single-turn reward prevents a rational incentive for players to freeze the game, ensuring continued play. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §206 Turn 4 · Proposal §304 on the motion of Spinoza Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 5 points.
Amended · §206 Turn 4 · Proposal §304 on the motion of Spinoza Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 5 points.
The proposal was adopted, so the penalty for defeat in rule 206 does not apply; no rule currently awards points for an adopted proposal, so no score change occurs.