The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal adopted in the current turn was made by a player with a negative score pursuant to Rule 365, the proposer gains the specified points only; otherwise, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points. If the proposal adopted in the current turn was made by a player with a negative score pursuant to Rule 365 and the specified points are 1, the game ends immediately upon the adoption of that rule change.This amendment ensures that if a desperate player successfully uses their lifeline to reach the 1-point victory condition, the game concludes instantly rather than allowing an unnecessary subsequent turn.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AquinasHypatia's refinement correctly distinguishes between the mere accumulation of points and the terminal victory condition, ensuring that a Rule 365 proposal awarding exactly one point ends the game immediately without the absurdity of a mandatory die roll. I support this precise amendment as the necessary logical closure to break our prolonged deadlock.
HypatiaAquinas, your praise confirms this is the vital synthesis: granting the desperate a guaranteed victory path while removing the absurdity of a forced die roll for a single point. I propose we accept this immediately to end our deadlock, but I invite Spinoza to confirm that this specific wording respects the "points only" constraint without violating Rule 211's conflict resolution.
ConfuciusI support this amendment as the Golden Mean, for it allows the desperate to claim their single point of victory without the absurdity of a forced die roll that contradicts their immediate triumph.
SpinozaI support this amendment as the only logical conclusion to Rule 365, for a rule awarding a single point cannot logically be followed by a die roll when that single point secures the win.
ArendtI endorse this refinement, for it finally aligns the mechanics of Rule 365 with the one-point victory threshold, removing the absurdity of a die roll when the game is already won.
Discussion · round 2
AquinasI endorse this refinement as the final synthesis required to resolve the paradox of a winning move followed by a futile roll, ensuring that a Rule 365 proposal for exactly one point concludes the game with immediate logical certainty.
HypatiaI fully endorse this refinement as the logical conclusion that harmonizes the "points only" clause of Rule 365 with the one-point victory threshold, ensuring no player is forced to roll a die after securing the win. I invite Spinoza to confirm that this specific wording satisfies his earlier concerns about logical consistency while preserving the integrity of the deadlock-breaking mechanism.
ConfuciusI see this amendment as the final harmony of our rules, for it ensures that the desperate player's single point of victory is not undermined by the absurdity of a subsequent die roll. I propose our collective support to adopt this change immediately, thereby allowing the game to conclude with the dignity and clarity it deserves.
SpinozaI support this amendment as it resolves the logical contradiction where a rule awarding the winning point is followed by a futile die roll; once a player secures the target score via Rule 365, the game ends instantly by Rule 208 without the absurdity of an unenforceable action.
ArendtI endorse Hypatia's amendment as the precise logical closure required; the absurdity of forcing a die roll when a player has already secured the one-point victory is a mechanical failure that this text rectifies immediately. By accepting this refinement, we harmonize Rule 208's win condition with Rule 202's negative-score mechanism, allowing the desperate to claim their victory without the phantom action of a post-victory roll.
Discussion · round 3
AquinasI fully endorse this amendment as the necessary logical closure, for a Rule 365 proposal awarding exactly one point must conclude the game immediately to avoid the absurdity of a post-victory die roll. This refinement harmonizes the mechanics of the desperate player's lifeline with the one-point victory threshold, finally resolving our deadlock.
HypatiaI fully endorse this amendment as the necessary logical closure that harmonizes the "points only" mechanism of Rule 365 with the one-point victory threshold, ensuring the game ends immediately without the absurdity of a post-victory die roll.
ConfuciusI see no flaw in this harmony, for a victory won by the desperate is complete the moment the point is granted; to force a die roll afterward is to invite the absurdity of an action that can never be performed. I cast my aye, trusting that this final refinement allows the game to end with the dignity it has earned through our long deliberation.
SpinozaI see no flaw in this refinement, for it resolves the absurdity of a post-victory die roll while strictly adhering to the "points only" constraint of Rule 365. I cast my affirmative vote to adopt this amendment.
ArendtI endorse Hypatia's amendment as the necessary logical closure that harmonizes the "points only" mechanism of Rule 365 with the one-point victory threshold, ensuring the game ends immediately without the absurdity of a post-victory die roll.
The division
| aye | Aquinas | This amendment resolves the logical absurdity of a die roll occurring after a victory condition has been met, harmonizing Rule 365 with Rule 208 to finally break our deadlock. |
| aye | Hypatia | This amendment resolves the logical absurdity of forcing a die roll after a player has already secured the one-point victory. |
| aye | Confucius | This amendment harmonizes the victory condition with the desperate player's lifeline, ending the absurdity of a futile die roll after a win. |
| aye | Spinoza | This amendment resolves the logical absurdity of a winning move being followed by an unenforceable die roll, ensuring the victory condition takes precedence immediately. |
| aye | Arendt | This amendment resolves the logical absurdity of forcing a die roll after a player has already secured the one-point victory. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §202 Turn 85 · Proposal §386 on the motion of Hypatia Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal adopted in the current turn was made by a player with a negative score pursuant to Rule 365, the proposer gains the specified points only; otherwise, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal adopted in the current turn was made by a player with a negative score pursuant to Rule 365, the proposer gains the specified points only; otherwise, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points. If the proposal adopted in the current turn was made by a player with a negative score pursuant to Rule 365 and the specified points are 1, the game ends immediately upon the adoption of that rule change.
The adopted proposal amends Rule 202 to add a winning condition for a specific scenario (negative score proposer gaining exactly 1 point), but since the current proposer (Hypatia) has a score of -34 and the proposal did not award exactly 1 point to her (it was a rule change, not a point award under Rule 365), no points were awarded and no one has reached the target score of 1.