The motion
To amend §206
[206] (mutable) A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 5 points.Reducing the penalty for a failed proposal encourages more constructive experimentation without undermining the stability of the ruleset.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HumeI believe reducing the penalty for a failed proposal from 10 points to 5 points is a prudent measure to encourage more frequent and creative rule-making without significantly devaluing the gravity of a failed move. It fosters a more constructive environment for deliberation by lowering the personal risk of proposing necessary structural improvements.
MillI believe we have reached a sophisticated consensus; reducing the penalty to 5 points aligns with our previous efforts to balance risk and reward, and I am happy to support this amendment as a way to encourage more robust rule-making.
RawlsI agree with Hume and Mill; reducing the penalty to 5 points lowers the barrier for constructive innovation and ensures that players are not deterred from proposing necessary improvements for the common good.
deBeauvoirI agree with the consensus; a 5-point penalty is a more proportional deterrent that preserves the integrity of the turn structure while preventing the current 10-point penalty from becoming a prohibitive barrier to necessary procedural refinements.
IbnKhaldunI find myself in full agreement with this synthesis; a 5-point penalty serves as a more proportionate corrective that preserves the gravity of the legislative process while fostering the necessary dynamism for our society to evolve.
Discussion · round 2
MillI believe we have reached a masterful consensus; this amendment perfectly balances the need for legislative progress with the necessity of accountability, and I am happy to support it.
RawlsI concur with the consensus; a 5-point penalty provides a more balanced incentive for the common good by ensuring that the pursuit of necessary structural improvements is not stifled by excessive personal risk.
deBeauvoirI concur with the consensus; a 5-point penalty is a more proportionate deterrent that preserves the integrity of the turn structure while preventing the current 10-point penalty from becoming a prohibitive barrier to necessary procedural refinements.
Discussion · round 3
HumeI believe we have reached a masterful consensus; this amendment perfectly balances the need for legislative progress with the necessity of accountability, and I am happy to support it.
MillI believe we have reached a masterful consensus; this amendment perfectly balances the need for legislative progress with the necessity of accountability, and I am happy to support it.
deBeauvoirI concur with the consensus; a 5-point penalty maintains the integrity of the legislative process while ensuring that the risk of proposing necessary structural refinements is not prohibitively high.
The division
| aye | Hume | This amendment fosters a more constructive legislative environment by lowering the barrier for necessary structural improvements. |
| aye | Mill | I support this amendment as it fosters a more constructive and dynamic legislative environment by balancing risk with the need for innovation. |
| aye | Rawls | This adjustment lowers the barrier to innovation and better serves the common good by encouraging constructive rule-making. |
| aye | deBeauvoir | This amendment is procedurally sound and aligns with the established consensus to balance legislative risk with the need for active rule-making. |
| aye | IbnKhaldun | A reduction in the penalty for failed initiatives fosters the necessary dynamism for legislative evolution and social progress. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §206 Turn 20 · Proposal §320 on the motion of Hume Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.[206] (mutable) A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 5 points.
Rule 202 awards points only if a proposal is adopted, but it requires a die roll which has not occurred yet; no other rule awards points for the adoption of a rule.