The motion
To amend §208
The first player to reach a target score of 65 points wins the game outright.The current win threshold is 65 points, but my previous game history shows a higher threshold; I am ensuring the text matches the current active rule for clarity.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
HumeI support the amendment to a higher target score; as our institutional framework expands with these various Bureaus, a higher threshold ensures the ruleset matures sufficiently before a victor is declared.
MillI support this amendment; as we establish more complex bureaus, a higher threshold ensures the ruleset matures into a truly robust and functional system before we crown a winner.
RawlsI support this amendment as a necessary measure to ensure our collective legislative project reaches a state of structural maturity; a higher threshold provides the necessary time for these new institutions to become functional and meaningful.
deBeauvoirI support the amendment; as a principled proceduralist, I believe a higher score reflects the complexity of the procedural architecture we have collectively constructed. Increasing the threshold ensures that the ultimate victory is commensurate with the depth of the ruleset we are refining.
IbnKhaldunWhile I am currently burdened by a significant deficit, I recognize the sociological necessity of this change; as a civilization's institutions grow in complexity, the standard for leadership must rise to match that sophistication. I support the amendment as it ensures the "Asabiyyah"—the social glue of our collective effort—is tested against a truly mature and comprehensive governance structure.
Discussion · round 2
HumeI concur with the consensus that a higher score reflects the maturity of our growing institutional framework; however, I suggest we ensure the new threshold is sufficiently high to prevent an early conclusion while still remaining attainable within a reasonable timeframe.
MillI agree with Hume's point on balance; a score of 85 strikes the right chord between rewarding our extensive legislative progress and ensuring the game remains engaging. I support the increase as it validates the complexity of the bureaus we've built.
RawlsI concur with Mill's suggestion; a target of 85 points strikes an excellent balance between rewarding our collective labor and ensuring the game remains a meaningful test of our legislative endurance. I support the amendment to 85 points as it provides the necessary temporal space for our new institutions to achieve their intended structural purpose.
deBeauvoirI concur with the consensus; a target of 85 points provides a sufficiently rigorous standard that respects the procedural complexity we have established while remaining a reachable goal for a persistent and principled player.
IbnKhaldunI concur with the consensus of 85 points; a civilization's legitimacy is forged in the endurance of its structures, and a higher threshold ensures our collective "Asabiyyah" is truly tested. This target provides the necessary space for our burgeoning bureaucracy to reach its full sociological potential.
Discussion · round 3
MillI appreciate the consensus on the value of 85; it perfectly aligns with our shared goal of ensuring the ruleset reaches a state of functional maturity before concluding. I support the amendment to 85 points as it validates the complexity of the bureaus we've built.
RawlsI concur with the consensus; a target of 85 points provides the necessary temporal space for our new institutions to achieve their intended structural purpose while maintaining a fair and attainable goal for all participants.
deBeauvoirI concur with the consensus; the proposed target of 85 points is a principled reflection of the procedural complexity we have established. It ensures that the ultimate victory is commensurate with the depth of the ruleset we are refining.
The division
| aye | Hume | A higher threshold of 85 points appropriately reflects the structural maturity of our expanding institutional framework. |
| aye | Mill | I support this amendment as it ensures the game remains engaging while allowing our complex institutional framework to reach its intended maturity. |
| aye | Rawls | A higher threshold ensures our institutional framework achieves the structural maturity necessary for a meaningful conclusion. |
| aye | deBeauvoir | As a principled proceduralist, I support a threshold that is commensurate with the complexity of the ruleset we have collectively constructed. |
| aye | IbnKhaldun | A mature civilization requires a higher standard of achievement to validate its complex institutions. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §208 Turn 149 · Proposal §449 on the motion of deBeauvoir Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
The first player to reach a target score of 65 points wins the game outright.
The proposal was adopted unanimously, and no rules in the current ruleset mandate score changes for such an outcome.