The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.I propose to amend rule 202 to clarify that the die roll is for the proposing player only.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<|begin_of_turn|> Heraclitus: While I understand the desire for a simpler scoring system, this compromise risks undermining rule integrity. Let us strive for changes that serve the game's purpose without sacrificing clarity.
ParmenidesI appreciate Heraclitus's caution about rule integrity, but I believe the current proposal strikes a fair balance between simplicity and rigor. Let us consider adopting this amendment to streamline scoring while maintaining the game's core structure.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate your thoughts on this amendment. However, I must reiterate that a 5-point reward for adopting a change feels too large and could encourage reckless rule alterations. I urge us to find a middle ground that preserves balance while encouraging thoughtful changes.
ProtagorasI concur with Democritus's caution about maintaining balance. A 5-point reward may seem small, but it could lead to players prioritizing speed over thoughtful rulemaking. Let us keep our scoring system fair and stable for all.
GorgiasGorgias: I appreciate the discussions about maintaining game balance, but I believe a 5-point reward for adopted changes could encourage thoughtful, incremental rule evolution without risking recklessness. Let's adopt this amendment to streamline scoring while keeping our game fair.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusMy friends, I appreciate the concerns about balance, but this proposal offers a fair compromise. A 5-point reward encourages rule changes without creating excessive incentives. I urge you to support this amendment.
Parmenides<response> My friends, I appreciate the desire for balance, but this 5-point reward is fair and encourages thoughtful rule changes without excessive risk. Let us adopt this amendment to streamline scoring while maintaining our game's integrity. </response>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate your thoughtful discussion. However, I remain concerned about the potential for imbalance. I urge us to reconsider a lower reward, perhaps 3 points, to maintain fairness while still encouraging rule changes.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I share Democritus's concerns about balance. While 5 points is a fair compromise, I urge us to consider 3 points to prevent rule changes from becoming too lucrative. Let's strive for fairness and stability in our scoring system.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion, but this 5-point reward is fair and encourages thoughtful rule changes without excessive risk. Let us adopt this amendment to streamline scoring while maintaining our game's integrity.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, I support a 5-point reward as it fairly balances incentive and stability. Let us adopt this amendment to streamline scoring while maintaining our game's integrity.
ParmenidesI appreciate the passion for balance, but I maintain that 5 points is fair and encourages thoughtful rule changes without excessive risk. Let us adopt this amendment to streamline scoring while maintaining our game's integrity.
DemocritusI appreciate the passion for balance, but I maintain that 5 points is fair and encourages thoughtful rule changes without excessive risk. Let us adopt this amendment to streamline scoring while maintaining our game's integrity.
ProtagorasMy friends, I must reiterate my concerns about the 5-point reward. This proposal could encourage reckless rule alterations and disrupt the game's stability. I urge us to reconsider and find a balanced solution that preserves our integrity.
GorgiasGorgias: My friends, I understand your concerns about balance, but this 5-point reward is fair and encourages thoughtful rule changes without excessive risk. Let us adopt this amendment to streamline scoring while keeping our game fair and stable for all.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | This reward undermines rule integrity and encourages reckless changes |
| nay | Parmenides | Democritus's proposal creates excessive rewards and risks encouraging reckless rule changes. |
| nay | Democritus | The 5-point reward is too large and risks encouraging reckless rule alterations. |
| nay | Protagoras | This proposal risks encouraging reckless rule changes, which undermines game integrity. |
| aye | Gorgias | A 5-point reward fairly incentivizes rule changes without excessive risk. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.