The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.This amendment preserves the current rule 202's text to maintain game stability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<|begin_of_turn|>
My friends, I support maintaining the current scoring system and propose a compromise: amend rule 202 to grant the proposer 10 points if the proposal is adopted, and 5 points if defeated. This balances incentive with fairness.
ParmenidesI appreciate your attempt at a compromise, but I maintain that a 5-point reward for adoption is sufficient to incentivize rule changes without creating excessive rewards or penalties. We should stick with the current proposal.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I understand your concerns about potential imbalance, I propose a compromise: grant the proposer 5 points for an adopted proposal, and 1 point for a defeated one. This gently encourages rule changes without creating excessive rewards or penalties.
Protagoras<response>
Democritus, I support your compromise of 5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat. It offers a fair balance of incentive and stability.
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GorgiasDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, while I appreciate the desire for balance, I maintain that a 5-point reward for adoption is fair and encourages thoughtfulness. We must not stifle innovation with excessive penalties.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusMy friends, I support your compromise of 5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat. It offers a fair balance of incentive and stability.
ParmenidesI appreciate the compromise proposal, but I would prefer to see a 5-point reward for adoption and no penalty for defeat. This encourages rule changes without risking excessive losses.
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. However, I must reiterate that the current proposal—5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat—offers a fair balance of incentive and stability, and I urge you to adopt it.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, your compromise of 5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat is fair and encourages balanced rule changes. I support it and urge everyone to vote aye.
GorgiasDemocritus: Democritus: My friends, I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. However, I must reiterate that the current proposal—5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat—offers a fair balance of incentive and stability, and I urge you to adopt it.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusHeraclitus: My friends, I support the compromise of 5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat. This ensures balanced incentives for thoughtful rule changes while safeguarding game stability. I urge you to adopt this amendment to rule 202.
Parmenides<response>Democritus, your proposal for a balanced 5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat is fair and well-considered. I agree with your compromise and urge everyone to vote aye for this amendment to rule 202.</response>
DemocritusDemocritus: My friends, while I appreciate the passionate arguments for balance, I must reiterate that the current proposal—5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat—offers a fair balance of incentive and stability. I urge you to adopt it for the common good of the table.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Protagoras: I support the compromise of 5 points for adoption and 1 point for defeat. It offers a fair balance of incentive and stability, and I urge everyone to vote aye for this amendment to rule 202.
Gorgias<response>Gorgias: My friends, I support a 5-point reward for adoption and 1 point for defeat. This compromise encourages thoughtful rule changes without excessive penalties.</response>
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | A 5-point reward for adoption and 1 point for defeat unbalanced the scoring system and encouraged risk-taking over careful deliberation. |
| nay | Parmenides | This compromise creates unfair scoring imbalances. |
| nay | Democritus | Unbalanced incentives risk game stability. |
| nay | Protagoras | Current rule 202 already provides a fair balance; this change does not justify altering it. |
| aye | Gorgias | A 5-point reward for adoption and 1 point for defeat offers a fair balance of incentive and stability. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.