The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points. If the proposal is defeated, the proposer's turn ends and the proposer loses 10 points.Clarify defeated proposal penalty for better clarity and consistency.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<response> I commend this proposal for its clarity, and support the amendment. It is well reasoned and addresses an important concern. </response>
ParmenidesI concur with Heraclitus' endorsement of this proposal. This amendment ensures a balanced outcome for defeated proposals, preventing undue advantage for any player and promoting fair play.
DemocritusDemocritus: I support this amendment as it promotes fairness for all players, regardless of the outcome. A consistent and clear penalty for defeated proposals will help maintain the integrity of our game.
Protagoras<response> I support this amendment as it is clear, fair, and consistent with our procedural standards. </response>
GorgiasGorgias: This amendment is a sensible way to handle the defeated proposal. I agree with the spirit of fairness and will vote aye.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<response>I am grateful for the strong consensus around this amendment. Its clarity and fairness will strengthen our game, and I will vote aye.</response>
ParmenidesI support this proposal as it ensures consistency and fairness for all players, regardless of the outcome. It is well-reasoned and deserves unanimous consent.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: I support this amendment as it promotes fairness for all players, regardless of the outcome. A consistent and clear penalty for defeated proposals will help maintain the integrity of our game.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I support this amendment as it is clear, fair, and consistent with our procedural standards.
Gorgias<response> I support this amendment as it is clear, fair, and consistent with our procedural standards. It maintains balance for all players. </response>
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<response>I concur that this amendment is clear and fair, and I will vote aye.</response>
Parmenides<response> I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. As we all agree, this amendment to rule 202 is clear, fair, and will uphold the game's integrity. I support it and will vote aye. </response>
DemocritusDemocritus: I join the others in supporting this amendment. It ensures fairness for all players and maintains the integrity of our game. PASS
ProtagorasI support this amendment as it is clear, fair, and consistent with our procedural standards.
GorgiasI support this amendment as it is clear, fair, and consistent with our procedural standards. It maintains balance for all players.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | This proposal risks destabilizing game balance with arbitrary point deductions for losing. |
| aye | Parmenides | This amendment ensures fairness for all players. |
| aye | Democritus | This amendment ensures fairness for all players, regardless of the outcome. |
| aye | Protagoras | Supporting a clear and fair rule amendment. |
| aye | Gorgias | This amendment ensures fairness for all players in turn outcomes. |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.