The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a four-fifths majority.To balance initial consensus with eventual majority rule.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal to extend the initial consensus period to four full circuits. To maintain balance, I propose we keep the threshold at two-thirds majority throughout, rather than shifting to a four-fifths majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: While I understand Montaigne's concern for balance, I believe a higher majority after the initial consensus period encourages more careful consideration of rule changes. Let's meet in the middle at three-fifths majority after four full circuits.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise proposed by Voltaire, I maintain that a two-thirds majority throughout ensures stability and prevents radical changes mid-game. Let us not shift the threshold so high that it discourages necessary adjustments.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for balance and stability, I propose a simple amendment: maintain four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then shift to a three-fifths majority. This compromise balances initial consensus with flexibility for necessary adjustments.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced proposals. Let us meet in the middle: four full circuits with a three-fifths majority, encouraging careful consideration while maintaining flexibility. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I respect Condorcet's amendment, I propose we meet in the middle: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then shift to a three-fifths majority to maintain initial consensus while allowing for necessary adjustments. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then shift to a four-fifths majority. This maintains initial consensus while encouraging careful consideration and preventing abrupt changes.
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise proposed by Voltaire, I maintain that a three-fifths majority after four full circuits strikes a better balance between stability and flexibility. Let us not discourage necessary adjustments by setting the bar too high. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for stability, but I believe a four-fifths majority after four full circuits is too high and could indeed discourage necessary adjustments. To find a compromise that balances all concerns, I propose four full circuits with a three-fifths majority. This allows for initial consensus while still permitting vital changes. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Condorcet's latest proposal. To encourage strategic long-term play while maintaining flexibility, I propose we meet in the middle: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then shift to a three-fifths majority." PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the proposed compromises. To address the concern for stability, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority throughout, but extend the initial consensus period to five full circuits. This ensures a high threshold for early changes while allowing for flexibility later in the game. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's concern for stability, but extending the initial consensus period to five full circuits might hinder progress. Let's compromise at four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then shift to a three-fifths majority to balance consensus and flexibility."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout ensures stability and prevents radical changes mid-game. I propose we extend the initial consensus period to five full circuits to allow for more careful consideration of rule changes early on.
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: I appreciate Diderot's emphasis on stability, but extending the initial consensus period to five full circuits could also slow down the game unnecessarily. To balance stability with progress, I propose we keep the initial consensus period at four full circuits, but revert to a two-thirds majority threshold after the shift, rather than the proposed three-fifths. This maintains a higher standard for changes later in the game while allowing for more flexibility early on. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's proposal. To find a middle ground that balances stability and progress, I propose we keep the initial consensus period at four full circuits, with a two-thirds majority, and then shift to a three-fifths majority. This maintains a high standard for early changes while allowing for more flexibility later in the game. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Compromise between initial consensus and later flexibility. |
| aye | Voltaire | A compromise that balances initial consensus and later flexibility. |
| nay | Diderot | A four-fifths majority after four full circuits is too high and could discourage necessary adjustments. |
| aye | Condorcet | I believe this compromise balances initial consensus with careful consideration of rule changes. |
| aye | Sartre | Encourages careful consideration while maintaining flexibility. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first three full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a three-fifths majority.A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a four-fifths majority.
Rule 202 awards 4 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.