The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first five full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a four-fifths majority.To increase stability and encourage long-term strategy.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Diderot's persistence, I believe that extending the initial consensus period to five circuits might hinder the game's progress and dynamism. I propose we maintain four circuits with a two-thirds majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet in the middle: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, followed by a four-fifths majority thereafter. This maintains some initial consensus while allowing for evolution, addressing both Diderot's and Montaigne's concerns.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise proposed by Voltaire, I maintain that a consistent two-thirds majority for five full circuits ensures stability and prevents sudden shifts in the ruleset.
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet supports Diderot's proposal. While stability is crucial, so is predictability. Five full circuits with a two-thirds majority provides both.
SartreSartre: Sartre understands Diderot's and Condorcet's concern for stability. However, Voltaire's proposal strikes a balance between initial consensus and evolution, which Sartre believes is key to a dynamic and engaging game. Sartre supports Voltaire's proposal.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Voltaire's proposal aims to balance stability and evolution, I fear it introduces complexity without substantial benefit. Let us settle on Diderot's proposal, maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for five full circuits to ensure a stable foundation.
VoltaireVoltaire: Understanding the concerns for stability, I propose a compromise: four full circuits with a three-fifths majority, followed by a four-fifths majority. This maintains initial consensus while allowing for some evolution, addressing both Diderot's and Montaigne's concerns.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a two-thirds majority to ensure the utmost stability in our game's foundation.
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet supports Diderot's proposal. Stability and predictability are key, and five full circuits with a two-thirds majority provides both.
SartreSartre: Sartre believes a consistent two-thirds majority for five full circuits, as proposed by Diderot, fosters a more robust and deliberative game, better serving our collective interests.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability, but I propose a compromise: four full circuits with a three-fifths majority, then a four-fifths majority. This balances initial consensus and evolution, while being less complex than Voltaire's last proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: Voltaire: Noting Montaigne's concern for simplicity and Diderot's for stability, I propose we meet in the middle: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then a four-fifths majority. This balances both concerns and keeps the ruleset evolvable.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a two-thirds majority to ensure the utmost stability in our game's foundation.
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet supports Diderot's proposal, as it ensures the greatest initial stability and predictability.
SartreSartre: Sartre believes that Voltaire's latest proposal strikes a fair balance between stability and evolution, addressing both Diderot's concern for consistency and Montaigne's desire for progress. Sartre supports Voltaire's proposal.
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Four circuits with a two-thirds majority suffices for initial consensus. |
| nay | Voltaire | While I understand Diderot's concern for stability, I believe that four full circuits with a two-thirds majority better balances initial consensus and evolution. |
| aye | Diderot | Five full circuits with a two-thirds majority ensures stability and predictability. |
| aye | Condorcet | Stability and predictability are key. |
| nay | Sartre | Voltaire's proposal better balances stability and evolution. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.