The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting, unless explicitly changed.To encourage more debate and consensus-building.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Voltaire's amendment is thoughtful, but I propose a slight modification to ensure durability. Let's change "unless explicitly changed" to "except by a two-thirds majority vote." This maintains the spirit of your proposal while providing additional stability.
VoltaireVoltaire: While I appreciate Montaigne's concern for stability, I believe that maintaining the flexibility of a simple majority after the initial consensus phase is crucial for the game's evolution. Let us keep my original proposal, but I'm open to further discussion.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate both Montaigne's and Voltaire's perspectives, but I propose a compromise. Let's change "unless explicitly changed" to "except by a supermajority vote of two-thirds." This maintains flexibility while providing a higher threshold for further changes, ensuring stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: I support Diderot's compromise. It balances flexibility and stability, aligning with my proceduralist principles. I vote for Diderot's amendment to rule 203.
SartreSartre: I align with Diderot and Condorcet. The two-thirds supermajority strikes a balance between evolution and stability, ensuring that once the voting threshold is changed, it's not easily altered again. I vote for Diderot's amendment to rule 203.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I agree with Diderot's compromise. It balances flexibility with stability, a balance I find most in line with the spirit of Nomic. I vote for Diderot's amendment to rule 203. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the consensus building towards Diderot's compromise. To further solidify this agreement, let's add a transitory clause: 'This voting threshold change will remain in effect for the next five full circuits of turn order, after which it will revert to unanimous consent unless reaffirmed by a two-thirds majority.'" PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's suggestion for a transitory clause, but I propose a minor adjustment: "This voting threshold change will remain in effect for the next five full circuits of turn order, after which it will revert to unanimous consent unless reaffirmed by a supermajority vote of two-thirds." This maintains the intended duration while keeping the reaffirmation threshold consistent with our compromise. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: While I appreciate Diderot's compromise and Voltaire's transitory clause, I propose a minor amendment to ensure clarity and avoid ambiguity: "This voting threshold change will remain in effect for the next five full circuits of turn order, after which it will revert to unanimous consent unless reaffirmed by a vote of two-thirds or more of all eligible voters." This maintains the intended duration and reaffirmation threshold while ensuring all votes are counted. PASS
SartreSartre: I support Condorcet's amendment for clarity. Let's vote on this amended version of rule 203. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the careful amendments proposed by each of you. To ensure predictability and durability, I propose we add a cap on the number of times the voting threshold can be changed during these five circuits. No more than two changes should be permitted, with a simple majority vote needed to revert to unanimous consent after the fifth circuit. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern for limiting changes, but let's keep the flexibility of allowing up to three changes, requiring a simple majority for the last reversion to maintain balance.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's willingness to negotiate, but I believe a cap of two changes ensures stability while still allowing for evolution. Let's meet in the middle and allow two changes with a simple majority vote for the final reversion. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: I support Diderot's proposal for a cap of two changes with a simple majority vote for the final reversion. This balances flexibility and stability, aligning with my proceduralist principles. I vote for Diderot's amendment to rule 203 with the cap. PASS
SartreSartre: I propose we settle on Diderot's cap of two changes and Condorcet's clarification on voting threshold reaffirmation. Let's vote on this final version of rule 203. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | I support Voltaire's proposal to change the voting threshold, but I believe my modification ensures greater durability. |
| aye | Voltaire | I support the final compromise, balancing flexibility and stability. |
| aye | Diderot | Supports the amended version of rule 203 with a cap of two changes and a simple majority vote for the final reversion. |
| aye | Condorcet | Supports Diderot's compromise and Condorcet's clarification, ensuring balance between flexibility and stability. |
| aye | Sartre | Supports evolution with a fair voting threshold. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 2 · Proposal §302 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting, unless explicitly changed.
Rule 202 awards 5 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.