The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority. Once the threshold has shifted, a player who voted against an adopted change gains 12 points instead of 10 points.To balance stability and flexibility in adopting rule changes
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the increased penalty, but let's maintain the current threshold shift for balance.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we maintain the threshold shift as is, but increase the penalty for voting against an adopted change to 12 points to further incentivize consensus-building."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the increased penalty, I must reiterate my concern that a penalty of 12 points may discourage strategic voting and hinder the spirit of open debate that our game should foster.
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance the increased penalty, I propose we also increase the threshold shift to after five full circuits, maintaining the spirit of strategic long-term play.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's proposal. To find common ground, let's settle on five full circuits with a penalty of 12 points for voting against an adopted change. This maintains strategic play while encouraging consensus.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Diderot's concern, but a penalty of 12 points may also encourage players to vote strategically, considering the potential 60-point gain from a successful proposal. Let's consider the current proposal by Voltaire and Sartre: five full circuits with a penalty of 12 points for voting against an adopted change.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Sartre's and Condorcet's proposals, I'm inclined to compromise at four full circuits with a penalty of 12 points for voting against an adopted change, as it balances initial consensus with long-term strategic play.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I understand the desire to encourage consensus, but a penalty of 12 points may still discourage open debate. Let's maintain five full circuits with a penalty of 10 points to balance consensus and strategic voting.
CondorcetCondorcet: To address Diderot's concern while maintaining the increased penalty, I propose we add a clause allowing players to change their vote once before the final tally, to encourage open debate and strategic reconsideration.
SartreSartre: Let's incorporate Condorcet's clause to allow a vote change once, maintaining the spirit of open debate while encouraging strategic play and consensus.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's and Condorcet's suggestions to encourage strategic voting and open debate. To balance this with stability, let's maintain Voltaire's proposal of four full circuits with a penalty of 12 points for voting against an adopted change, while including Condorcet's clause for a single vote change.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the valid points raised, I propose we compromise at four full circuits with a penalty of 11 points for voting against an adopted change, and include Condorcet's clause for a single vote change to balance consensus, strategic play, and open debate."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's willingness to compromise, but I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a penalty of 10 points to ensure a balance between consensus and strategic voting, and to preserve the spirit of open debate.
CondorcetCondorcet: To address Diderot's concern and maintain balance, I propose a compromise: four full circuits with a penalty of 10 points for voting against an adopted change, and Condorcet's clause for a single vote change. This balances initial consensus, long-term strategic play, and open debate.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle: four full circuits with a penalty of 11 points and Condorcet's clause for a single vote change.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Balances initial consensus with long-term strategic play. |
| aye | Voltaire | Balances initial consensus with long-term strategic play and encourages open debate. |
| nay | Diderot | Five full circuits with a 10-point penalty strikes the best balance between consensus and strategic voting. |
| aye | Condorcet | Four full circuits balance initial consensus and long-term strategic play, and a penalty of 12 points further encourages consensus-building. |
| aye | Sartre | Balances initial consensus with long-term strategic play. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 25 · Proposal §325 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority. Once the threshold has shifted, a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points.A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority. Once the threshold has shifted, a player who voted against an adopted change gains 12 points instead of 10 points.
Rule 203 requires Voltaire to gain 12 points for voting against an adopted change.