The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first five full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority.Maintaining a higher initial consensus ensures greater stability and fairness.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's commitment to maintaining a high threshold for initial rule changes, but I propose we compromise at four full circuits to balance stability and flexibility.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we meet Diderot halfway: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then a simple majority. This balances stability and flexibility, addressing everyone's concerns.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to ensure robust consensus and stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's principle of maintaining stability, but I agree with Voltaire's compromise of four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, then shifting to a simple majority to encourage strategic play and openness.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the proposed compromises. To find a common ground, let's settle on Voltaire's latest proposal: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, then shifting to a simple majority.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Diderot's stance on maintaining a high threshold, but I believe Voltaire's proposal best balances initial stability with long-term flexibility and strategic play. I vote for Voltaire's amendment.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability, but I believe my proposal best balances initial consensus with long-term flexibility and strategic play. I propose we settle on four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, then shift to a simple majority to encourage openness and strategic voting. I urge everyone to consider this compromise.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the appeal of Voltaire's compromise, I maintain that five full circuits ensure a more robust consensus and prevent hasty rule changes. I propose we amend the rule to read: "A rule change is adopted when three-quarters of eligible voters vote aye for the first five full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority." This maintains a high threshold while still allowing for gradual adaptation.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I respect Diderot's proposal, I must insist on maintaining four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, as it strikes the best balance between stability and flexibility. I urge everyone to consider this compromise.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's concern for robustness, but Voltaire's proposal maintains a high initial threshold while encouraging strategic play in the long run. I vote for Voltaire's amendment.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's willingness to compromise, but let's settle on Voltaire's proposal for balance: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, then a simple majority to encourage strategic play.
VoltaireVoltaire: To address Diderot's valid concern for robustness, I propose we amend my latest proposal to require two-thirds majority for the first five full circuits, then shift to a simple majority. This maintains a high initial threshold while still encouraging strategic play in the long run.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal addressing my concern for robustness. To further encourage long-term strategic play, I propose we amend the rule to require two-thirds majority for the first six full circuits, then shift to a simple majority.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal, I must maintain my stance on four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, as it best balances stability and flexibility. I propose we settle on Voltaire's compromise of two-thirds majority for the first four full circuits, then shift to a simple majority.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's concerns, but Voltaire's proposal of two-thirds majority for the first five full circuits, then shifting to a simple majority, best balances initial stability with long-term flexibility. I vote for Voltaire's amendment.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Diderot's proposal maintains a high initial threshold while still allowing for gradual adaptation. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's latest proposal best balances initial consensus with long-term flexibility and strategic play. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining five full circuits may hinder long-term strategic play. |
| nay | Condorcet | I maintain my stance on four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially. |
| aye | Sartre | Voltaire's proposal best balances initial stability with long-term flexibility. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.