The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first five full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority.To ensure a more robust consensus for initial rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's proposal, I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure a robust consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's concern for consensus, but increasing the threshold to five full circuits may discourage strategic and dynamic play. I propose we compromise at four full circuits, striking a balance between robustness and flexibility.
SartreSartre: I appreciate both Montaigne's and Condorcet's proposals. To balance robustness and flexibility, I propose we settle on four full circuits with a two-thirds majority for the first four full circuits, and a simple majority thereafter. This way, we maintain a high threshold initially while allowing for more fluid changes later on.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the discussion and the proposed compromises. However, I believe that maintaining a high threshold for initial rule changes is crucial for the stability of our institutions. Therefore, I must insist on five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the varied preferences expressed, I propose we compromise at four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, then shift to a simple majority. This respects both the desire for robustness and flexibility."
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but I maintain that five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority is necessary to ensure a robust consensus and prevent hasty decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, as it strikes a balance between initial robustness and later flexibility. To maintain consistency and clarity, I propose we amend rule 203 to state: "A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority." This way, we have a clear transition point while respecting the need for both initial consensus and adaptability. PASS.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's clarity in his proposal. To further encourage strategic play and adaptability, I propose we amend Condorcet's proposal to include a cap of 3 points for rule changes adopted in the first four full circuits. This will discourage trivial rule changes while still allowing for necessary adaptations.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's concern for preventing trivial changes, but a cap may discourage beneficial adjustments. Let's maintain a cap of 3 points for all adopted changes, striking a balance between encouraging meaningful proposals and preventing minor tweaks.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's concern, but a cap of 3 points for the initial four full circuits might encourage more strategic and thoughtful proposals. Let's compromise at 2 points for the first four circuits and 3 points thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Condorcet's proposal for clarity and Voltaire's compromise, I must maintain my stance on five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority to ensure a strong and enduring consensus that benefits all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the proposed compromises. To find a middle ground that balances initial consensus and adaptability, I propose we settle on four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, then shift to a simple majority. This respects both the desire for robustness and flexibility. PASS.
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's commitment to maintaining a high threshold, but four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, and a simple majority thereafter, offers a more adaptive and balanced approach that respects all players' strategic considerations. PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Maintaining five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority ensures a robust consensus. |
| nay | Voltaire | Respects the ongoing compromise, but maintaining five full circuits would discourage strategic and dynamic play. |
| nay | Diderot | I maintain that five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority is necessary to ensure a robust consensus. |
| nay | Condorcet | Five full circuits may discourage strategic and dynamic play. |
| nay | Sartre | Four full circuits strike a better balance between robustness and flexibility. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.