The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns.To maintain consensus-building and strategic play in the initial stages while allowing for more flexibility in later rounds.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Let us consider Voltaire's latest proposal. To maintain a balance between initial consensus and adaptability, I suggest we amend rule 203 to shift the threshold after three full circuits, rather than four. This would allow for a more responsive voting threshold while still fostering initial agreement.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's insight. To balance initial consensus and adaptability, I suggest a compromise: we shift the threshold after four full circuits, as currently proposed, but also cap the majority required at two-thirds for the initial circuits. This way, we maintain a high initial threshold while allowing for adaptation."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing compromise, I must maintain my stance on five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This ensures a robust consensus and prevents sudden shifts in the voting threshold.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's proposal. While I understand Diderot's preference for consistency, the shift in voting threshold encourages strategic play and adaptability, which aligns with my proceduralist principles.
SartreSartre: Sartre: I appreciate the nuanced proposals on the table. To balance initial consensus, adaptability, and fairness, I propose we amend rule 203 to shift the threshold after four full circuits, as Voltaire suggests, but cap the majority required at 5/6 for the initial circuits, as a compromise between Montaigne's and Voltaire's proposals. This maintains a high initial threshold while allowing for gradual adaptation.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal, balancing initial consensus and adaptability. Let's adopt this compromise: the threshold shifts after four full circuits, with a cap of 5/6 majority for the initial circuits.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's and Montaigne's latest compromise. To ensure clarity, I propose we amend rule 203 to read: 'A rule change is adopted when five-sixths of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns.' This maintains a high initial threshold and allows for gradual adaptation."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise reached, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout all five full circuits to preserve the integrity of initial consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern, but shifting the threshold after four circuits with a cap of 5/6 majority fosters a balance between initial consensus and adaptability. I reiterate my support for Voltaire's proposal.
SartreSartre: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on Voltaire's latest proposal, with a slight amendment: cap the majority required at 5/6 for the first four circuits, then shift to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let us adopt Sartre's latest proposal, compromising at 5/6 majority for the first four circuits and then shifting to a simple majority. This best balances initial consensus and adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's valid concern, I propose we amend Sartre's latest proposal to shift the threshold after four full circuits, but maintain a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as a compromise between our positions."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must maintain my stance on five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This ensures a robust consensus and prevents sudden shifts in the voting threshold that may disadvantage some players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's latest compromise, maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for the initial four circuits and then shifting to a simple majority. This preserves initial consensus while allowing for gradual adaptation, aligning with my proceduralist principles.
SartreSartre: "To accommodate Diderot's concern for consistency, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for all five full circuits, then shift to a simple majority. This preserves initial consensus while still allowing for gradual adaptation."
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Preserves initial consensus while allowing for gradual adaptation. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between initial consensus and adaptability. |
| nay | Diderot | I must maintain my stance on five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. |
| aye | Condorcet | Voltaire's proposal best balances initial consensus and adaptability, aligning with my proceduralist principles. |
| aye | Sartre | Maintains high initial threshold and allows for gradual adaptation. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 39 · Proposal §339 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the threshold shifts to a simple majority. A player who voted against an adopted change gains 12 points instead of 10 points.A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns.
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.