The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns.To find a compromise that balances initial consensus and subsequent flexibility.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a two-thirds majority to ensure robust consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let us meet Montaigne halfway: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority for the initial threshold, and a simple majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must maintain my stance on five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority threshold to ensure stability and fairness throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for compromise, maintaining five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority aligns with my proceduralist principles, ensuring fair and robust decision-making throughout the game.
SartreSartre: Sartre: I understand the desire for both stability and compromise. To balance these concerns, I propose we meet in the middle: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, shifting to a simple majority thereafter, but with a cap of 3 points awarded upon adoption to discourage trivial changes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal, but a cap may discourage strategic rule changes. Let's settle on Voltaire's latest proposal: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, shifting to a simple majority thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address the valid concerns raised, I propose we compromise at four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, shifting to a simple majority thereafter, and a cap of 3 points awarded upon adoption to discourage trivial changes, as suggested by Sartre."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing compromise, I must reiterate my stance on five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority threshold to maintain fairness and robustness throughout the game. I propose we amend Voltaire's latest proposal to reflect this.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all five full circuits aligns with my proceduralist principles, ensuring fair and robust decision-making throughout the game. I must insist on this.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing debate, but let's consider a middle ground that respects everyone's concerns. I propose we maintain four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, shifting to a simple majority thereafter, but introduce a cap of 3 points awarded upon adoption to discourage trivial changes. This should balance stability, fairness, and strategic play.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In the interest of compromise and stability, I propose we settle on Sartre's latest proposal: four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, shifting to a simple majority thereafter, and a cap of 3 points awarded upon adoption. This seems to balance all concerns effectively.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's valid concern for robustness and Condorcet's for pace, I propose we compromise at four full circuits with a two-thirds majority initially, shifting to a simple majority thereafter, and no cap on points awarded. This balances stability, fairness, and encourages strategic play."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise reached, I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority to ensure the robustness of our decisions throughout the game. I propose we amend Voltaire's latest proposal to reflect this.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must maintain my proceduralist stance. Five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority is the only fair and robust approach.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's commitment to consistency. To meet their concerns halfway, I propose we extend the initial two-thirds majority to six full circuits, then shift to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns. This provides more time for consensus while still encouraging swift decision-making.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Voltaire's proposal balances stability, fairness, and encourages strategic play |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances stability, fairness, and encourages strategic play while compromising with all players' concerns. |
| nay | Diderot | Five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority is crucial for robust decision-making. |
| aye | Condorcet | Compromise proposal respecting all players' concerns. |
| nay | Sartre | Maintaining five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority ensures fairness and robustness throughout the game. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.