The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye during the first four full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns.To balance initial consensus and pace of gameplay.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireI appreciate Montaigne's proposal to maintain the two-thirds majority for the entire duration of the first four full circuits, but I believe it may hinder the fluidity of gameplay. I propose a compromise: a two-thirds majority for the first four full circuits, and then a simple majority for the remaining players' turns. This balances initial consensus with expedited decision-making.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for expediency, maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the first five full circuits ensures a more robust consensus and prevents hasty decisions. I propose we amend rule 203 to reflect this.
CondorcetI appreciate Montaigne's and Diderot's perspectives, but I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout the entire game to ensure stability and fairness.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced proposals. To find a middle ground that balances initial consensus and expedited decision-making, let's settle on Voltaire's compromise: two-thirds majority for the first four full circuits, then a simple majority. This acknowledges the importance of robust initial agreement while encouraging swifter gameplay as the game progresses.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand the concerns raised, but maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for the entire game, as Diderot suggests, might impede the natural evolution of strategy and gameplay. Let us meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's compromise: two-thirds majority for the first four full circuits, then a simple majority. This preserves the initial rigor of decision-making while accommodating the need for faster gameplay as the game progresses.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises proposed. To address Diderot's concern for robustness and Condorcet's for pace, I propose we amend rule 203 as follows: a two-thirds majority for the first four full circuits, and then a simple majority for the remaining players' turns, with a cap of 3 points for the initial four full circuits to prevent trivial changes. This addresses everyone's concerns and encourages strategic play.
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Voltaire's latest proposal, I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a consistent two-thirds majority to ensure the utmost consensus and stability throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect the compromise reached thus far, but maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout, as Diderot proposes, ensures the greatest stability and fairness. I must vote against any change that reduces this threshold.
SartreSartre: Sartre: I understand Diderot's concern for stability, but Voltaire's proposal strikes a balance between initial rigor and expedited decision-making. Let's adopt Voltaire's compromise, acknowledging the importance of robust initial agreement while encouraging swifter gameplay as the game progresses.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To address Diderot's concern for stability, I propose a slight amendment to Voltaire's compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first five full circuits, with a cap of 5 points to discourage trivial changes. This preserves initial rigor while allowing for faster gameplay as the game progresses, and still considers Diderot's valid concerns.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's latest proposal. To address the concerns of all players, I propose we amend rule 203 to a two-thirds majority for the first five full circuits, with a cap of 4 points to balance robustness and expediency. This compromise acknowledges the importance of initial consensus while allowing for faster gameplay as the game progresses.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing compromises, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all five full circuits to ensure the greatest stability and fairness throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the nuanced discussions, but I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure the greatest stability and fairness. I vote nay on any proposal that reduces this threshold.
SartreSartre: I propose a slight amendment to Voltaire's latest compromise: keep the two-thirds majority for the first four full circuits, but extend it to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns, with no cap on points. This maintains the initial rigor while allowing for faster gameplay as the game progresses, and encourages more strategic rule changes.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Preserves initial rigor while accommodating faster gameplay |
| aye | Voltaire | Addresses initial rigor and expedited decision-making. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all five full circuits ensures the greatest stability and fairness throughout the game. |
| aye | Condorcet | Maintains initial rigor while accommodating faster gameplay. |
| aye | Sartre | Voltaire's compromise balances initial consensus with expedited decision-making. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 42 · Proposal §342 on the motion of Montaigne Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first four full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns.A rule change is adopted when two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye during the first four full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority for the remaining players' turns.
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.