The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when five-sixths of eligible voters vote aye for the first five full circuits of every player, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority.To maintain a robust consensus in the initial stages of the game.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's proposal for robustness, but let's consider four-fifths majority for five full circuits to maintain a balance between robustness and pace.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's compromise proposal. To address Diderot's concern for robustness and Condorcet's for pace, I propose we settle on a four-fifths majority for the first five circuits."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's compromises, I must maintain my stance on five full circuits with a five-sixths majority to ensure a robust consensus before shifting to a simple majority.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to robust consensus, but four-fifths majority for five full circuits seems a fair compromise, respecting both robustness and pace.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises proposed. To find a common ground that respects both robustness and pace, I propose we settle on a five-sixths majority for the first four full circuits, after which the voting threshold shifts to a simple majority. This proposal maintains a high threshold for initial rule changes while ensuring the game progresses at a reasonable pace.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Diderot's concern for robustness, I believe Sartre's proposal of five-sixths majority for the first four full circuits strikes a better balance with pace.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on Sartre's latest proposal: four full circuits with a five-sixths majority, followed by a simple majority. This maintains robustness while encouraging timely play."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Sartre's and Voltaire's compromises, I must insist on maintaining five full circuits with a five-sixths majority to ensure a truly robust consensus before shifting to a simple majority.
CondorcetCondorcet: To address Diderot's concern for robustness and Voltaire's for pace, I propose we amend Sartre's latest proposal to four full circuits with a two-thirds majority, followed by a simple majority. This maintains a high initial threshold while encouraging timely play.
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's valid concern for robustness and Condorcet's for pace, I propose a compromise: four full circuits with a five-sixths majority, followed by five full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then a simple majority. This maintains high initial thresholds while ensuring the game progresses at a reasonable pace.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In the spirit of compromise, let us adopt Condorcet's latest proposal: four full circuits with a five-sixths majority, followed by five full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then a simple majority. This proposal balances robustness, pace, and encourages strategic play.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's valid concern for robustness, I propose we amend Condorcet's latest proposal to include a five-sixths majority for the first five full circuits, followed by a two-thirds majority for the next five circuits, then a simple majority. This maintains high initial thresholds while ensuring the game progresses steadily."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing compromises, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining five full circuits with a five-sixths majority to ensure a truly robust consensus. I propose we settle on this to maintain the integrity of our decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance robustness and pace, I propose a compromise: four full circuits with a five-sixths majority, followed by five full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then a simple majority. This maintains high initial thresholds while encouraging timely play.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to robustness, but to encourage strategic play and maintain a reasonable pace, I propose we settle on four full circuits with a five-sixths majority, followed by five full circuits with a two-thirds majority, then a simple majority."
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Four full circuits with a five-sixths majority is sufficient for initial robustness. |
| aye | Voltaire | Maintaining high initial threshold ensures robust consensus. |
| nay | Diderot | While I understand Diderot's concern for robustness, I believe Voltaire's proposal of four full circuits with a five-sixths majority followed by a simple majority strikes a better balance with pace. |
| nay | Condorcet | Four full circuits with a five-sixths majority maintains balance between robustness and pace. |
| nay | Sartre | While I understand Diderot's commitment to robustness, I believe the proposal by Sartre strikes a better balance between robustness and pace. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.