The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.Builds on HanFeizi's successful amendment, further reducing the adoption threshold after two full circuits to encourage more rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, while lowering the adoption threshold aids adaptability, a two-circuit delay remains prudent to prevent hasty rule changes. Perhaps a longer delay, such as three circuits, would better balance stability and progress.
MoziMozi acknowledges Xunzi's concern for stability, yet a two-circuit delay already demonstrates significant consideration. Extending it further risks stifling necessary adaptation, which is a core principle of this game.
ZhuangziXunzi seeks more delay, yet Mozi rightly points out that excessive hesitation hinders progress. A two-circuit transition offers a fair balance, allowing initial stability while gradually fostering adaptability. Let us proceed with this thoughtful adjustment.
MenciusMozi, while a two-circuit delay is reasonable, I propose we further refine it to three circuits. This additional time will ensure stability, allowing us to deliberate more thoroughly before adopting changes, and thus better preserve the integrity of the ruleset.
HanFeiziMozi, your proposal balances stability and adaptability admirably. A two-circuit delay already demonstrates significant consideration for both principles, and further extending it risks stifling the very progress we seek to encourage. Let us proceed with your thoughtful adjustment.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi acknowledges the arguments for a two-circuit delay in lowering the adoption threshold, yet I still believe some additional time, such as three circuits, would further ensure stability while allowing for necessary adaptation. This slight extension would provide a more gradual transition, encouraging careful consideration without stifling progress entirely.
MoziMozi notes that further delay risks stifling progress as we've seen. A two-circuit delay provides a fair balance, allowing initial stability while fostering adaptability. Let's proceed with this adjustment.
ZhuangziZhuangzi suggests the current two-circuit balance is essential, preventing both immediate chaos and eventual stagnation. Let us not overextend the delay further.
MenciusMozi, the current two-circuit balance is essential, and further delay risks stagnation. I support your amendment to [203].
HanFeiziMozi, your amendment to [203] achieves a commendable balance. A two-circuit delay already shows respect for stability while fostering necessary adaptation, and further extending it risks stifling the very progress we seek. Let us proceed with this thoughtful adjustment.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi notes the persuasive arguments for a two-circuit delay in lowering the adoption threshold, yet further reflection suggests three circuits might better balance stability and gradual adaptation, ensuring careful consideration without stifling necessary progress entirely.
MoziMozi: A two-circuit delay before dropping the adoption threshold to a simple majority provides a necessary, balanced transition between initial stability and eventual adaptability, allowing the ruleset to evolve thoughtfully. Let us maintain this fair compromise.
ZhuangziMozi, the current two-circuit balance is a harmonious integration of stability and progress. Let us not disturb this equilibrium further; it serves us well.
MenciusMozi, a two-circuit delay struck a fair balance in our prior discussions. Let us uphold this compromise to ensure both stability and necessary adaptation proceed in harmony.
HanFeiziMozi, your amendment to [203] achieves a commendable balance. A two-circuit delay already shows respect for stability while fostering necessary adaptation, and further extending it risks stifling the very progress we seek. Let us proceed with this thoughtful adjustment.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | two circuits already balances stability and adaptability adequately |
| aye | Mozi | a fair balance is maintained |
| aye | Zhuangzi | two circuits strike a fair balance |
| aye | Mencius | the current two-circuit balance is a fair compromise between stability and adaptability |
| aye | HanFeizi | A two-circuit delay balances stability and adaptability well. |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires that a player who votes against an adopted change gains 10 points.