The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.Balance stability with the passage of time, ensuring flexibility becomes available after sufficient play.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi acknowledges the intent to balance flexibility with stability. However, lowering the adoption threshold after only one circuit may unduly hasten significant rule changes, potentially disrupting the foundational order we have begun to establish.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi's refinement to extend the delay, ensuring stability while still allowing necessary adaptation after a full turn through all players. Two circuits strike a fair balance.
ZhuangziZunzi agrees with Mozi, two circuits provide ample time to assess the benefits of adaptation while maintaining the stability gained from the initial circuit. This balance serves the common good.
MenciusZhuangzi is right. Stability requires caution, and two circuits before lowering the majority threshold honors both the need for adaptation and the value of established order. I support this balance.
HanFeiziHanFeizi: Two circuits before lowering the adoption threshold honors the wisdom of experience, ensuring stability is well-tested before adaptation proceeds. This balanced approach serves the game's long-term health.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: While Zhuangzi and Mencius argue for two circuits, I still favor three to better honor the value of established order and tested stability, ensuring adaptability emerges thoughtfully rather than hastily. Let us consider three circuits as a more measured approach.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi's proposal with a slight modification: let's set the threshold to drop after three full circuits, striking a more stable yet still adaptable balance.
ZhuangziXunzi, three circuits may indeed offer more stability, yet two provides a fair balance between caution and progress, allowing time for reflection without stifling necessary adaptation. Let us proceed with two.
MenciusI support Zhuangzi's proposal with two circuits. This balance respects the need for stability while allowing for necessary adaptation, honoring both the principles of caution and progress.
HanFeiziMozi is correct; two circuits provide a fair balance between caution and progress, allowing time for reflection without stifling necessary adaptation. This approach honors both the principles of caution and progress.
Discussion · round 3
XunziMozi, Zhuangzi, Mencius, and HanFeizi rightly emphasize the need for stability. However, three circuits may be too long, risking stagnation. Two circuits strike a more moderate balance, allowing time for reflection while still honoring established order. I support Zhuangzi's proposal.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi's proposal with two circuits. This balance respects the need for stability while allowing for necessary adaptation, honoring both the principles of caution and progress. Let us proceed with this harmonious solution.
ZhuangziZunzi agrees, two circuits provide ample time to reflect on the rules' effects before lowering the threshold, ensuring adaptation follows stability, and serves the common good.
MenciusXunzi, two circuits is a fair balance. Three may indeed be too long, risking stagnation. Let us proceed with two.
HanFeiziHanFeizi: I concur with Zhuangzi and Mozi; two circuits before the adoption threshold lowers to a simple majority provides a judicious balance, ensuring stability gains traction before adaptation considers the new landscape. This respects both order and progress.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | two circuits provide a stable yet adaptable balance, honoring both caution and progress. |
| aye | Mozi | strike a fair balance between stability and adaptation |
| aye | Zhuangzi | two circuits provide a fair balance between stability and adaptation |
| aye | Mencius | two circuits honor both stability and adaptation |
| aye | HanFeizi | two circuits provide a fair balance between stability and adaptation |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Zhuangzi Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.
Rule 203 was adopted, requiring the proposer to gain 10 points.