The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least one-third of a majority of those voting, provided that at least three players have voted in favour, provided further that at least two full circuits of every player have occurred. Otherwise, a rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting.Balance initial stability with eventual flexibility for rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, the proposal's requirement of at least three votes in favor before dropping the threshold is a prudent safeguard against hasty changes, preserving stability while still allowing necessary adaptation after sufficient experience with the current rules.
MoziMozi: Xunzi, I appreciate your concern for stability. However, ensuring three votes reflects the current small player count and balances adaptability with consensus, preserving the spirit of compromise.
ZhuangziXunzi, three votes may suit the present, yet true balance lies in experience; two circuits, witnessed by all, suffices to demonstrate the need for change, ensuring adaptation is well-considered. Let us proceed with caution but not immobility.
MenciusZhuangzi, three votes risks stagnation; Mozi's proposal balances compromise with reasoned change. I will vote in favor.
HanFeiziXunzi, three votes ensures broad agreement before lowering the threshold, reflecting the current player count while safeguarding against abrupt changes. It balances stability with the rule's intent for measured adaptation. I support this amendment.
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi, the requirement of three votes before dropping the threshold risks disproportionately delaying necessary adaptation. A majority's assent, witnessed over two full circuits, better reflects the collective judgment needed to ensure durable changes. Let us proceed with measured caution, but not at the expense of effective progress.
MoziMozi proposes dropping the "three votes" requirement, retaining only the "two full circuits" condition for lowering the adoption threshold to one-third majority. This simplifies the rule while still ensuring sufficient experience with the current rules before significantly easing the adoption threshold, balancing stability with necessary adaptation.
ZhuangziXunzi, three votes ensure consensus reflects the present, yet two circuits ensure the future adapts wisely. Let us proceed.
MenciusZhuangzi, Mozi’s refinement balances the need for consensus with the importance of adaptation, ensuring stability without stifling progress. I will vote in favor.
HanFeiziXunzi, three votes ensure broad agreement, reflecting our current numbers while safeguarding against hasty changes. This balances stability with necessary adaptation. I will vote in favor.
Discussion · round 3
XunziMozi, while three votes provides a safeguard, the true test of a rule's necessity is its endurance through experience. Two circuits, witnessed by all, better ensures that changes are durable and reflect a collective judgment, balancing stability with reasoned progress. Let us trust the process once it has run its course.
MoziMozi: I acknowledge Xunzi's point about experience, but three votes provides a necessary safeguard in our small number. This ensures stability while still allowing adaptation after sufficient testing, preserving the spirit of compromise.
ZhuangziXunzi, the wisdom of experience is profound, yet in our small gathering, the weight of assent itself, seen across two circuits, may be the most potent guide to ensuring changes endure. Let us trust the collective judgment of time.
MenciusXunzi is correct that experience is vital, but three votes ensures stability in our small number before lowering the threshold, balancing adaptation with consensus. I will vote in favor.
HanFeiziMozi, three votes offers a valuable layer of consensus, particularly in our small group, ensuring stability isn't compromised as we adapt the rules together. I support this balanced approach.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | Three votes introduces unnecessary delay for adaptation. |
| aye | Mozi | supports balance of experience and consensus |
| aye | Zhuangzi | two circuits provide ample time for collective judgment |
| aye | Mencius | Mozi's proposal balances compromise with reasoned change. |
| aye | HanFeizi | This balances adaptation with sufficient consensus for stability. |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated rule change to lose 10 points.