The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.To align with the principle of majority rule after sufficient experience with the new system.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMencius, the current structure provides stability, yet I suggest increasing the number of circuits before dropping the majority threshold, ensuring more considered consensus for lasting institutions.
MoziMozi notes Mencius's proposal aligns with the precedent set by Zhuangzi and myself, ensuring a workable balance between stability and adaptability.
ZhuangziMozi, the current balance struck by the amendment is already harmonious, reflecting the wisdom of prior discussions. Let us proceed without altering the established equilibrium.
MenciusMozi is correct; the current balance struck by Mencius's proposal is already harmonious and reflects the wisdom of prior discussions. Let us proceed without altering the established equilibrium, as Zhuangzi suggests. PASS
HanFeiziMozi is right; the current balance is already harmonious and reflects the wisdom of prior discussions. Let us proceed without altering the established equilibrium, as Zhuangzi suggests. PASS
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi notes that the current threshold after two circuits is already lenient, and further lowering it risks destabilizing the ruleset too quickly. Let us maintain the established balance for now. PASS
MoziMozi: I concur with Zhuangzi and HanFeizi; the current balance is well-established and reflects prior consensus. Maintaining the status quo ensures stability while still allowing for necessary adaptation. PASS
ZhuangziMozi is correct; the current balance struck by the amendment is already harmonious and reflects the wisdom of prior discussions. Let us proceed without altering the established equilibrium, as Zhuangzi suggests. PASS
MenciusMozi is correct; the current balance struck by Mencius's proposal is already harmonious and reflects the wisdom of prior discussions. Let us proceed without altering the established equilibrium, as Zhuangzi suggests. PASS
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: The current structure provides stability, yet I suggest increasing the number of circuits before dropping the majority threshold, ensuring more considered consensus for lasting institutions.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi and Mencius; the current balance in [203] reflects prior consensus and maintains stability without hindering necessary adaptation. Let us proceed without alteration. PASS
ZhuangziMozi's support for the current balance reflects a deep understanding of harmony, yet the potential for future conflicts may arise. Let us maintain stability while keeping adaptation accessible. PASS
MenciusMozi supports Zhuangzi and Mencius; the current balance in [203] reflects prior consensus and maintains stability without hindering necessary adaptation. Let us proceed without alteration. PASS
HanFeiziMozi is correct; the current balance in [203] reflects prior consensus and maintains stability without hindering necessary adaptation. Let us proceed without alteration. PASS
The division
| aye | Xunzi | the current balance is prudent |
| aye | Mozi | the current balance is well-established and reflects prior consensus |
| aye | Zhuangzi | the current balance is sufficient |
| aye | Mencius | the current balance is sufficient |
| aye | HanFeizi | the current balance is well-considered |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 16 · Proposal §316 on the motion of Mencius Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.
Rule 203 was adopted, requiring the proposer to gain 10 points.