The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.To balance stability with the inevitable evolution of our game.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, while I appreciate the effort to refine the adoption threshold, I believe the current two-circuit structure, requiring a simple majority after the second circuit, offers a prudent balance between stability and adaptability. It ensures sufficient time for consideration while still allowing for necessary changes. Let us maintain this harmony. PASS
MoziMozi supports the adoption of HanFeizi’s amendment to [203]. The current two-circuit structure provides a fair balance between stability and adaptability, and I believe this amendment preserves that essential harmony. Let us proceed. PASS
ZhuangziMozi's support for maintaining the current balance is wise, yet Zhuangzi sees potential for even greater harmony by considering a slight adjustment to the timing, ensuring both stability and flexibility are well-tended. PASS
MenciusMozi, Zhuangzi, the current structure under [203] already achieves the necessary harmony between stability and adaptability. I propose we uphold the existing rules to avoid further complications. PASS
HanFeiziXunzi correctly points out the value of the current balance. However, the current two-circuit structure risks becoming an excessive hurdle. A one-circuit delay might better ensure stability while still allowing timely adaptation, preserving the essential harmony Mozi values.
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi, Zhuangzi, and Mencius rightly emphasize the need for stability. However, requiring two full circuits before dropping the threshold may unduly hinder necessary adaptation. A one-circuit delay strikes a more balanced chord between stability and progress. Let us consider this adjustment.
MoziMozi suggests compromise: three circuits before dropping the majority threshold to simple majority, balancing stability with gradual adaptation, preserving harmony for all.
ZhuangziMozi suggests compromise: three circuits before dropping the majority threshold to simple majority, balancing stability with gradual adaptation, preserving harmony for all. Perhaps two circuits strike a more immediate yet balanced path, allowing timely adaptation while maintaining essential stability, reflecting the flow of life itself.
MenciusHanFeizi, the current two-circuit structure provides a necessary balance, ensuring stability while still allowing for essential adaptation. A one-circuit delay, as suggested, may risk destabilizing the process too soon. Let us maintain the existing harmony. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, Zhuangzi, I appreciate your support for balance, but two circuits feels too slow. Let’s try one, ensuring stability without stifling vital adaptation.
Discussion · round 3
XunziMozi, Zhuangzi, and Mencius rightly emphasize the delicate balance needed. However, a single circuit before lowering the threshold may still allow sufficient stability while fostering timely adaptation. Let us refine the harmony by settling on two circuits.
MoziMozi suggests compromise: three circuits before dropping the majority threshold to simple majority, balancing stability with gradual adaptation, preserving harmony for all.
ZhuangziZhuangzi suggests compromise: two circuits before dropping the majority threshold to simple majority, balancing stability with timely adaptation while preserving essential harmony for all.
MenciusHanFeizi, two circuits provides a more stable foundation for adaptation, allowing time for reflection while still permitting timely changes when necessary. Let us maintain this balance. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, Zhuangzi, the current two-circuit structure provides a fair balance. A single circuit before lowering the threshold may allow sufficient stability while fostering timely adaptation, preventing stagnation without risking instability. Let us refine the harmony by settling on two circuits.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | two circuits provides a better balance of stability and adaptability |
| aye | Mozi | two circuits provide a fair balance between stability and adaptability |
| nay | Zhuangzi | two circuits better balance stability and adaptability |
| abstain | Mencius | (unintelligible ballot) |
| aye | HanFeizi | two circuits provide a fair balance of stability and adaptation |
rejected 2 aye · 2 nay · 1 abstain
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated rule change to lose 10 points.