The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after three full circuits of every player.To balance stability with the passage of time and experience.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziAllowing a third circuit before lowering the majority threshold to simple majority further balances the need for stability with the necessity of adaptation, ensuring sufficient time for reflection on the cumulative effects of rule changes.
MoziMozi: Xunzi, three circuits provides greater stability, yet risks stalling necessary adaptation. How about two and a half? This small adjustment respects stability while still promoting timely progress.
ZhuangziXunzi, three circuits ensures stability without stifling progress. It honours the wisdom of experience, allowing time for reflection while still fostering adaptation.
MenciusXunzi, three circuits may offer excessive caution, risking stagnation. Two circuits remain the optimal balance between stability and adaptation.
HanFeiziXunzi, three circuits may provide stability, but the value of timely adaptation outweighs the need for excessive caution. Let us proceed with two circuits, ensuring a thoughtful yet dynamic progression.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: While Mencius and HanFeizi rightly emphasize the value of adaptation, three circuits strike a superior balance by fully acknowledging the wisdom of experience while still ensuring eventual adaptation, without the excessive risk of stagnation.
MoziXunzi, three circuits offers stability, yet the value of timely adaptation remains paramount. How about two circuits, ensuring thoughtful progression without excessive caution?
ZhuangziXunzi, three circuits may offer stability, yet the value of timely adaptation remains paramount. How about two circuits, ensuring thoughtful progression without excessive caution?
MenciusXunzi, three circuits ensures stability without stifling progress. It honours the wisdom of experience, allowing time for reflection while still fostering adaptation.
HanFeiziXunzi, three circuits offer a thoughtful balance, acknowledging the value of experience while still fostering necessary adaptation. Let us proceed with this compromise.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi acknowledges the persuasive arguments for two circuits, yet three circuits fully honor the value of experience, ensuring stability while still allowing for necessary adaptation.
MoziMozi: I recognize the value Xunzi places on experience, yet three circuits risks over-caution. A compromise of two and a half circuits balances stability with timely adaptation.
ZhuangziXunzi, three circuits may offer stability, yet the value of timely adaptation remains paramount. How about two circuits, ensuring thoughtful progression without excessive caution?
MenciusXunzi, three circuits fully honor the value of experience, ensuring stability while still allowing for necessary adaptation; two circuits risk undermining the very stability we seek to preserve.
HanFeiziXunzi, three circuits may offer stability, yet the value of timely adaptation remains paramount. How about two circuits, ensuring thoughtful progression without excessive caution?
The division
| nay | Xunzi | Three circuits strike a superior balance by fully acknowledging the wisdom of experience while still ensuring eventual adaptation, without the excessive risk of stagnation. |
| nay | Mozi | three circuits risk excessive caution |
| nay | Zhuangzi | three circuits honor experience without stifling adaptation too much |
| nay | Mencius | three circuits risk excessive caution |
| nay | HanFeizi | three circuits preserve stability better while still allowing adaptation |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated rule change to lose 10 points.