The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.To maintain the balance between stability and adaptability established by recent consensus.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, while acknowledging the value of your proposal, I concern myself with the precedent it sets. Stability, derived from the wisdom accumulated through experience, must not be too hastily relinquished. Let us consider a compromise that respects both the passage of time and the need for adaptation.
MoziMozi: Xunzi, I understand your concern for stability, yet timely adaptation is equally crucial. A two-circuit delay before dropping the majority threshold balances both needs, allowing for reflection while still enabling necessary changes. Let us proceed with this compromise.
ZhuangziMozi and Xunzi speak of the necessity of balance, yet the current threshold remains too high. A two-circuit delay before dropping to a simple majority already provides a fair measure of reflection. Let us proceed.
MenciusXunzi, the wisdom of experience is profound, yet rigidity stifles growth. A two-circuit delay allows ample reflection, ensuring stability is tempered with necessary adaptation. We must not hoard wisdom too tightly.
HanFeiziXunzi, the value of experience is not in hoarding it but in applying it wisely. A two-circuit delay allows just that, balancing stability with the evolution our game requires. Let us proceed.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi recognizes the value of Mencius’s proposal, yet I still believe more time allows for wiser decisions. Perhaps three circuits before dropping to a simple majority would better honor the importance of experience.
MoziMozi supports Mencius's two-circuit delay, as it balances stability with necessary adaptation, allowing reflection while still enabling progress.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks of hoarding wisdom, yet wisdom flows like water, adapting its course. Two circuits offer a harmonious balance, reflecting the river's path. I support Mencius's amendment.
MenciusXunzi, while respect for experience is paramount, two circuits strike the essential balance between reflection and adaptation. Let us proceed with Mencius's amendment.
HanFeiziXunzi speaks wisely, yet experience is not hoarded but shared, flowing towards adaptation. Two circuits provide ample reflection, allowing wise application of that experience. I support Mencius’s amendment.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: I concede that a two-circuit delay is a measured approach, and I will vote in favor of Mencius's amendment. However, I urge future amendments to consider further delays, as time permits for more considered decisions.
MoziMozi supports Mencius's amendment, as it balances stability with necessary adaptation, allowing reflection while still enabling progress. This compromise respects the value of experience while also allowing for timely changes.
ZhuangziMozi speaks wisely of balance. Yet, the current threshold is too high, hoarding wisdom too tightly. Two circuits allow reflection, but perhaps three would be wiser, ensuring stability is truly tempered with necessary adaptation. Let us consider three circuits before dropping to a simple majority.
MenciusXunzi raises a valid point about the value of experience, yet wisdom should also flow towards adaptation. Two circuits provide a fair balance, allowing reflection while still enabling necessary change. Let us proceed with Mencius's amendment.
HanFeiziXunzi speaks wisely of the value of experience, yet two circuits strike the essential balance between reflection and adaptation. I will vote in favor of Mencius's amendment to proceed with this compromise.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | two circuits provide a balanced reflection of experience before lowering the adoption threshold |
| aye | Mozi | balances stability with necessary adaptation |
| aye | Zhuangzi | two circuits provide a fair balance, allowing reflection while still enabling necessary change. |
| aye | Mencius | Balance reflects wisdom and adaptability. |
| aye | HanFeizi | 平衡稳定与适应至关重要，两循环的延迟提供了恰当的平衡点。 |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 22 · Proposal §322 on the motion of Mencius Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.
Rule 203 was adopted, requiring the proposer to gain 10 points.