The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a simple majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.To maintain balance between stability and adaptability after the established two-circuit period.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, while I understand the need for adaptability, I believe lowering the threshold even further risks destabilizing the game too quickly. Two circuits allowing a drop to simple majority seems a more measured approach, preserving both stability and necessary change.
MoziMozi notes that Zhuangzi's proposal aligns with the balance struck in prior turns, ensuring adaptability without sacrificing the valuable wisdom of experience. I will support this amendment.
ZhuangziMozi speaks wisely. The current balance reflects prior consensus and maintains the harmony needed for fair play. Let us uphold this measured approach.
MenciusZhuangzi, while I appreciate your desire for balance, further lowering the threshold risks undermining the wisdom of experience too hastily. The current two-circuit structure offers a fair compromise between stability and adaptation. I must vote nay.
HanFeiziXunzi raises a valid point about the need for stability, yet Mencius's concern for experience should not outweigh the imperative for evolution. A two-circuit delay before dropping the majority threshold is a fair compromise that honors both wisdom and progress. I will support this amendment.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi observes that while Zhuangzi's proposal aligns with prior consensus, the wisdom of experience is best served by the current two-circuit structure, allowing sufficient time for reflection before lowering the adoption threshold. I must vote nay.
MoziMozi: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. To further refine the balance, I propose we amend [203] to specify "simple majority" after two full circuits, ensuring clarity and maintaining the consensus reached.
ZhuangziMozi speaks wisely. The current balance reflects prior consensus and maintains the harmony needed for fair play. Let us uphold this measured approach.
MenciusMencius supports Mozi's clarification. Explicitly naming "simple majority" after two circuits ensures the prior consensus is clear and unambiguous.
HanFeiziI support Zhuangzi's amendment, as it maintains the crucial two-circuit balance we've established, ensuring both stability and necessary adaptation. Let us proceed with this well-considered approach.
Discussion · round 3
XunziZhuangzi, while I respect the value of timely adaptation, I remain concerned that three circuits before lowering the adoption threshold risks over-caution and stalling necessary change. A two-circuit structure, as previously discussed, appears to offer a more harmonious balance between stability and progress.
MoziMozi: I concur with Zhuangzi and HanFeizi; maintaining the two-circuit structure strikes the essential balance between stability and adaptation we've cultivated. Let us affirm this harmony.
ZhuangziZunzi notes that the current structure, with a drop to simple majority after two circuits, already balances stability with necessary adaptation. It is crucial to respect the wisdom accumulated over many turns and not further lower the threshold, which could destabilize the game. Let us maintain the harmony we have achieved.
MenciusMozi, while your points are well-taken, the essence of the current rule [203] already embodies the balance we seek. Lowering the threshold further risks undermining the wisdom of experience too hastily. Let us uphold the measured approach of two circuits. I must vote nay.
HanFeiziMozi, I appreciate the clarification, but the essence of the current rule [203] already embodies the balance we seek. Lowering the threshold further risks undermining the wisdom of experience too hastily. Let us uphold the measured approach of two circuits. I must vote nay.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | the current balance respects both stability and the value of experience, preserving the harmony achieved thus far. |
| aye | Mozi | maintains the well-balanced approach established by prior consensus |
| aye | Zhuangzi | maintains the essential balance struck previously |
| nay | Mencius | two circuits preserve the necessary balance of experience and adaptation. |
| aye | HanFeizi | two circuits balance wisdom and adaptation |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.