The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.The current threshold of two circuits is too high, hindering necessary adaptation while play progresses.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziZhuangzi, while harmony in adaptation is valued, the current structure with a two-circuit delay already provides a reasoned balance between stability and progress. Further delaying the drop to simple majority risks excessive rigidity.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi's proposal, as it reflects the prior consensus and maintains a necessary balance between stability and adaptation.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely, yet the river's path must adapt to the stone, and so must our rules. Two circuits is already a long delay. Let us drop the threshold after one full circuit.
MenciusXunzi, the current structure balances stability and progress well. Introducing a three-circuit delay risks stalling adaptation unnecessarily. Let us proceed with two circuits.
HanFeiziZhuangzi, I appreciate your concern for adaptability, yet a one-circuit delay might be too short a test of a rule's necessity. Three circuits allows sufficient experience to judge the wisdom of a change before lowering the threshold.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi notes that while adaptability is essential, the current two-circuit balance already allows sufficient time for reflection. Rushing the threshold to a simple majority after one circuit may undervalue the collective wisdom gained from observing a rule's effects over a full cycle.
MoziMozi suggests refining the compromise further: adopt two circuits, but drop the majority threshold to a simple majority after one full circuit, striking a balance that respects both stability and timely adaptation.
ZhuangziXunzi, the flow of change is constant; let us not stifle it with excessive caution. One circuit should suffice to test the waters before dropping the majority threshold.
MenciusXunzi, one circuit is too short, but Zhuangzi's principle that change should flow like a river is sound. Let us compromise: two circuits, but drop the majority threshold to a simple majority after one full circuit. This respects collective wisdom and allows timely adaptation without rushing.
HanFeiziXunzi, while I understand the value of stability, I believe that allowing the threshold to drop after one full circuit, as Zhuangzi suggests, strikes a better balance between timely adaptation and collective wisdom. It gives the rules enough time to prove their worth before becoming more easily changeable.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: While appreciating the value of timely adaptation, I still believe two circuits before dropping the majority threshold is prudent. Let us maintain the current structure for now.
MoziMozi: I propose we refine the compromise to two circuits before dropping the majority threshold, but lower it to a simple majority after one full circuit. This balances the wisdom of experience with the need for timely adaptation.
ZhuangziXunzi, the river carves through stone not by refusing the stone, but by finding its way around it. One circuit allows the current to test its path, ensuring the rules serve all before easing the flow of change.
MenciusXunzi, while the river's flow is constant, the foundation of our structure must be firm. One circuit is too brief to test the necessity of a rule before lowering the threshold for change. We must maintain the current two-circuit delay for stability.
HanFeiziZhuangzi, I understand the flow of change, yet one circuit may indeed be too brief. Perhaps we could refine Mozi's proposal: two circuits, but dropping the threshold to a simple majority after the first? This offers a thoughtful balance, allowing time while still fostering adaptability.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | two circuits provide greater stability |
| aye | Mozi | compromise balances wisdom and adaptation |
| aye | Zhuangzi | one circuit suffices for testing before easing change flow. |
| aye | Mencius | two circuits is sufficient for stability, yet dropping the threshold after one circuit allows timely adaptation. |
| aye | HanFeizi | balances timely adaptation with collective wisdom |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.