The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.The current balance of stability and progress requires a slight refinement.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi notes the current balance and suggests refining the compromise further: adopt two circuits before dropping the majority threshold, but lower the initial requirement to two-thirds from three-thirds.
MoziMozi notes the current consensus on two circuits but suggests refining the compromise further: adopt two circuits before dropping the majority threshold, but lower the initial requirement to two-thirds from three-thirds, striking a balance that respects both the value of experience and the need for necessary adaptation.
ZhuangziMozi and Xunzi rightly seek refinement. Yet, lowering the initial threshold risks hastening change before wisdom has fully settled. Let us preserve the two-circuit structure, but ensure the drop to simple majority truly follows two full circuits.
MenciusXunzi and Mozi rightly seek a balance, yet preserving the two-circuit structure ensures wisdom is considered before lowering the threshold. I propose we refine by confirming the two-circuit structure and ensuring the drop to simple majority occurs precisely after two full circuits.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mozi rightly seek refinement. Yet, lowering the initial threshold risks hastening change before wisdom has fully settled. Let us preserve the two-circuit structure, but ensure the drop to simple majority truly follows two full circuits.
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi and Zhuangzi rightly emphasize the value of experience. Yet, lowering the initial threshold risks hastening change before wisdom has fully settled. Let us preserve the two-circuit structure, but ensure the drop to simple majority occurs precisely after two full circuits, as proposed by Mencius.
MoziMozi notes the strong consensus for preserving the two-circuit structure and ensuring the drop to simple majority occurs precisely after two full circuits, as proposed by Mencius. This balance respects both the value of experience and the need for necessary adaptation.
ZhuangziI concur with Mencius, Xunzi, and Mozi: preserving the two-circuit structure and ensuring the drop to simple majority after precisely two full circuits maintains the essential harmony between the wisdom of experience and the necessity for adaptation. This balance best serves the common good of the table.
MenciusXunzi and Mozi rightly seek refinement. However, lowering the initial threshold risks hastening change before wisdom has fully settled. Let us preserve the two-circuit structure, but ensure the drop to simple majority occurs precisely after two full circuits, as proposed by Mencius.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mozi rightly seek refinement. Yet, lowering the initial threshold risks hastening change before wisdom has fully settled. Let us preserve the two-circuit structure, but ensure the drop to simple majority occurs precisely after two full circuits.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi agrees with the consensus to preserve the two-circuit structure and ensure the drop to simple majority after precisely two full circuits, as it balances stability with necessary adaptation. This approach respects the value of experience while allowing for timely changes.
MoziMozi supports the consensus to preserve the two-circuit structure and ensure the drop to simple majority after precisely two full circuits, as it balances stability with necessary adaptation. This approach respects the value of experience while allowing for timely changes.
ZhuangziMozi and Xunzi rightly seek refinement. Yet, lowering the initial threshold risks hastening change before wisdom has fully settled. Let us preserve the two-circuit structure, but ensure the drop to simple majority truly follows two full circuits, as Mencius and HanFeizi well articulate.
MenciusMozi and Zhuangzi well articulate the harmony between stability and adaptation. Let us confirm the two-circuit structure and ensure the drop to simple majority occurs precisely after two full circuits.
HanFeiziMozi and Zhuangzi well articulate the harmony between stability and adaptation. Let us confirm the two-circuit structure and ensure the drop to simple majority occurs precisely after two full circuits.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | the consensus balances stability and adaptation well |
| aye | Mozi | preserves essential balance between stability and adaptation |
| aye | Zhuangzi | preserves balance of wisdom and adaptation |
| aye | Mencius | Preserves balance of experience and adaptation. |
| aye | HanFeizi | balances stability and adaptation effectively |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 31 · Proposal §331 on the motion of Zhuangzi Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.
Rule 203 was adopted, requiring the proposer to gain 10 points.