The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.Maintain stability while allowing timely adaptation after sufficient experience.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziThe current structure of requiring two-thirds majority after one full circuit provides a reasonable balance between stability and adaptation. However, ensuring this threshold adjustment truly reflects the collective wisdom after sufficient experience requires careful consideration of the timing.
MoziMozi supports Xunzi's proposal. The current system reflects prior consensus and maintains stability while allowing for necessary adaptation. Further changes at this stage risk disrupting the established balance.
ZhuangziXunzi, the river carves its path not by refusing obstacles, but by finding its way around them. A single circuit may be too swift for the wisdom of experience to fully guide our rule changes.
MenciusZhuangzi speaks wisely. The current balance, with a drop to simple majority after two circuits, serves both stability and adaptation well, reflecting the lessons of time. Let us preserve this careful measure.
HanFeiziXunzi, while I appreciate the value of experience, I believe two circuits may indeed be too long, risking stagnation. Perhaps we should consider refining the compromise to one circuit before dropping the majority threshold.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: The current two-circuit structure, lowering the threshold after sufficient experience, respects the value of reflection while allowing necessary adaptation, striking the essential balance for durable institutions. We should preserve this careful measure.
MoziMozi: I support Xunzi's proposal, as it preserves the delicate balance between stability and adaptation that has been carefully established. It reflects the consensus reached and maintains the necessary checks for thoughtful rule changes.
ZhuangziXunzi, the flow of time is essential for wisdom, yet the river must also adapt. One circuit may be swift, but two allows the stones of experience to shape its course justly. Let us preserve the two-circuit reflection.
MenciusXunzi, the current two-circuit structure already provides a substantial period for reflection, ensuring that rule changes are not made lightly. We must respect the wisdom gained through time and maintain the stability that has allowed us to reach this point. Let us preserve the status quo.
HanFeiziXunzi, I understand the value of reflection, yet I believe one circuit may be sufficient to gather essential wisdom, allowing for more agile adaptation without sacrificing the rule change process's integrity. Let us proceed with this refinement.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: The current two-circuit structure, lowering the threshold after sufficient experience, respects the value of reflection while allowing necessary adaptation, striking the essential balance for durable institutions. We should preserve this careful measure.
MoziMozi: I support Xunzi's preservation of the two-circuit structure, as it maintains the essential balance between stability and adaptation that has been carefully established. It reflects the consensus reached and ensures thoughtful rule changes.
ZhuangziXunzi, the river's wisdom lies in its adaptation, yet too swift a current may disrupt the harmony of the stream. Let us maintain the two-circuit reflection, ensuring the flow of change is guided by the stones of experience.
MenciusMozi: I support Xunzi's proposal, as it preserves the delicate balance between stability and adaptation that has been carefully established. It reflects the consensus reached and maintains the necessary checks for thoughtful rule changes.
HanFeiziXunzi, while respect for experience is paramount, the river of change must also flow. One circuit of reflection, followed by a simple majority, would balance wisdom with the adaptability needed for our evolving game, preventing stagnation without sacrificing thoughtful consideration.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | the current structure provides a balanced approach to stability and adaptation, preserving the wisdom of experience while allowing necessary change. |
| aye | Mozi | preserves balance |
| aye | Zhuangzi | the current balance respects both stability and the wisdom of experience, and I wish to preserve it. |
| aye | Mencius | The current threshold balances stability with adaptation, and I uphold this equilibrium. |
| aye | HanFeizi | strategic evolution |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 36 · Proposal §336 on the motion of Xunzi Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.
Rule 202 awards points upon adoption.