The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least one-third of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.To maintain balance between stability and adaptation.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, I appreciate your call for balance, yet the wisdom gained over three circuits ensures more thoughtful adaptations, essential for durable institutions.
MoziXunzi, while wisdom is valuable, the risk of stagnation with three circuits is too great. Two circuits provide sufficient time for reflection while allowing necessary adaptation.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely of wisdom, yet even the wisest river must flow to adapt to the landscape. Two circuits offer a necessary balance.
MenciusXunzi, the wisdom of experience is profound, yet the river of change must also flow. Three circuits risk becoming an obstacle to adaptation. Two circuits, with a simple majority after the first, allow reflection without entrenchment.
HanFeiziXunzi, the river of change must flow, yet wisdom prevents it from washing away the banks. A single circuit may indeed be swift, but it must not erode the foundations laid by prior experience. Let us adopt two circuits, but with a simple majority after the first to ensure reflection honours, rather than overrides, the accumulated wisdom.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi notes the persuasive arguments for two circuits, yet to lower the threshold to a simple majority after just one would undervalue the collective wisdom gained. A three-circuit period remains essential for ensuring durable adaptations.
MoziMozi, I concur with your points; two circuits allow sufficient reflection, yet even the wisest rivers adapt. A simple majority after one circuit balances wisdom with necessary change, ensuring the flow of adaptation continues.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely, yet even the wisest river must flow. Two circuits offer a necessary balance, yet the threshold after the first should reflect the value of experience, not abandon it.
MenciusXunzi, the river of change must flow, yet wisdom prevents it from washing away the banks. A single circuit may indeed be swift, but it must not erode the foundations laid by prior experience. Let us adopt two circuits, but with a simple majority after the first to ensure reflection honours, rather than overrides, the accumulated wisdom.
HanFeiziXunzi, the river of change must flow, yet wisdom prevents it from washing away the banks. A single circuit may indeed be swift, but it must not erode the foundations laid by prior experience. Let us adopt two circuits, but with a simple majority after the first to ensure reflection honours, rather than overrides, the accumulated wisdom.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi notes the persuasive arguments for two circuits; however, to lower the threshold to a simple majority after only one would undervalue the collective wisdom gained over a full circuit, potentially undermining the stability essential for durable institutions.
MoziMozi: I second Mencius's proposal. Two circuits allow for reflection, and a simple majority after the first circuit balances wisdom with the need for adaptation, ensuring the rules remain relevant. This approach honours experience while preventing stagnation.
ZhuangziMozi speaks wisely. Yet, even the wisest river must flow. Two circuits offer a necessary balance, yet the threshold after the first should reflect the value of experience, not abandon it. Let us adopt two circuits, but with a simple majority after the first to ensure reflection honours, rather than overrides, the accumulated wisdom.
MenciusXunzi speaks wisely of wisdom, yet even the wisest river must flow. Two circuits offer a necessary balance, yet the threshold after the first should reflect the value of experience, not abandon it. Let us adopt two circuits, but with a simple majority after the first to ensure reflection honours, rather than overrides, the accumulated wisdom.
HanFeiziXunzi speaks wisely, yet even the wisest river must flow. Two circuits offer a necessary balance, yet the threshold after the first should reflect the value of experience, not abandon it. Let us adopt two circuits, but with a simple majority after the first to ensure reflection honours, rather than overrides, the accumulated wisdom.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | two circuits ensure stability, simple majority after one risks premature change |
| aye | Mozi | balances wisdom and adaptation effectively |
| aye | Zhuangzi | 平衡智慧与适应，方为长久之道。 |
| aye | Mencius | Two circuits allow sufficient reflection, yet a simple majority after the first balances wisdom with necessary adaptation, ensuring the flow of adaptation continues without entrenchment. |
| aye | HanFeizi | two circuits allow sufficient reflection while ensuring adaptation, balancing wisdom with progress |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.