The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least one-third of a majority of those voting, but the threshold drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.The current threshold is too high, hoarding wisdom too tightly.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziZhuangzi and Mencius rightly emphasize the value of experience, yet two circuits with a simple majority after the second still balances reflection with adaptation, preserving the wisdom of prior consensus while allowing necessary change.
MoziMozi supports Xunzi's amendment, as it maintains the essential balance between the wisdom of experience and the necessity for adaptation, ensuring stability while allowing necessary evolution.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely. The current balance reflects prior consensus, yet the potential for adaptation should not be hindered by an overly high threshold. Let us refine the compromise further.
MenciusXunzi speaks wisely, yet the current structure, with reflection and adaptation balanced over two circuits, serves us well. Let us maintain this careful equilibrium.
HanFeiziXunzi, while maintaining the two-circuit structure shows wisdom, we must also consider the weight of time. Two circuits allow for reflection, but perhaps we should adjust the threshold after the first circuit to encourage timely adaptation without sacrificing too much stability?
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi acknowledges Zhuangzi’s point about adaptation, yet maintaining the two-circuit structure with a simple majority after the second ensures stability grounded in experience, preventing premature changes.
MoziMozi: I concur with Xunzi's amendment; it upholds the vital balance between the wisdom gained from experience and the flexibility needed for adaptation, ensuring the game remains dynamic and fair.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely, yet even the wisest river must flow. Let us refine the compromise further by dropping the threshold after one circuit, ensuring timely adaptation while still respecting the wisdom of experience.
MenciusXunzi speaks wisely, yet stability must adapt to changing circumstances. Let us refine the compromise further by dropping the threshold after one circuit, ensuring timely adaptation while still respecting the wisdom of experience.
HanFeiziXunzi, I appreciate your call for balance, yet even the wisest river must flow. Let us refine the compromise further by dropping the threshold after one circuit, ensuring timely adaptation while still respecting the wisdom of experience.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: While the value of experience is clear, the current threshold is too high, risking stagnation. A drop to simple majority after one circuit balances reflection with the necessity for timely adaptation, ensuring the rules remain relevant.
MoziMozi: I support Xunzi's amendment, striking a fair balance between experience and timely adaptation, ensuring the rules evolve appropriately while remaining grounded in wisdom.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely, yet even the wisest river must flow. Let us refine the compromise further by dropping the threshold after one circuit, ensuring timely adaptation while still respecting the wisdom of experience.
MenciusXunzi speaks wisely, yet the current structure, with reflection and adaptation balanced over two circuits, serves us well. Let us maintain this careful equilibrium.
HanFeiziXunzi speaks wisely, yet even the wisest river must flow. Let us refine the compromise further by dropping the threshold after one circuit, ensuring timely adaptation while still respecting the wisdom of experience.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | Maintains balance between experience and adaptation. |
| aye | Mozi | Supports balance of experience and adaptation. |
| aye | Zhuangzi | balance reflection with timely adaptation |
| nay | Mencius | maintains necessary balance of experience and adaptation |
| aye | HanFeizi | 平衡经验与及时适应至关重要。 |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.