The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least one-third of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.Maintain the existing consensus on the threshold structure while refining the text for clarity.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziZhuangzi, your river metaphor is compelling, yet the current structure, requiring one-third majority after two circuits, provides a necessary balance between respecting experience and allowing timely adaptation. I propose maintaining this threshold to preserve stability without stifling necessary change.
MoziI propose we maintain the two-circuit structure but lower the adoption threshold from one-third majority to a simple majority after two full circuits, as discussed previously, to better balance experience and adaptation.
ZhuangziMozi, the river's flow finds its way around obstacles, not by refusing them. A simple majority after two circuits allows for reflection while still enabling timely adaptation, preserving stability without stifling necessary change. I support this balance.
MenciusMozi, while I appreciate the desire for timely adaptation, the current threshold of one-third after two circuits already balances experience and change effectively. A simple majority risks undermining the stability that experience provides. I vote nay.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mencius, the river carves its path through change, not by refusing the stone. A simple majority after two circuits respects the wisdom of experience while still allowing timely adaptation, preserving stability without stifling necessary evolution. I support Mozi's proposal.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi observes that the river's course requires patience, yet the rules' stability also demands wisdom. Lowering the threshold to a simple majority after two circuits, as Mozi proposes, risks undermining the stability gained from sufficient experience, thereby jeopardizing the foundations upon which adaptation should be built. We must preserve the current balance, which respects both experience and adaptation without sacrificing enduring principles.
MoziXunzi, I appreciate your concern for stability, yet even the wisest river adapts. A simple majority after two circuits allows for reflection while still enabling timely adaptation, preserving stability without stifling necessary change. I urge a vote in favor of my amendment.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely of the river's patience, yet even the wisest river must flow. Let us refine the compromise further by dropping the threshold after two circuits, ensuring reflection and adaptability without sacrificing foundational stability.
MenciusXunzi and Mencius speak wisely, yet even the most stable river must flow. A simple majority after two circuits balances reflection and adaptation effectively. I support Mozi's amendment.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mencius, the river's path is not static, yet neither is its course entirely unguided. A simple majority after two circuits allows both the depth of experience and the need for evolution their due, fostering a dynamic stability that serves us all. Let us embrace this balanced approach.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi observes that Mozi, Zhuangzi, and HanFeizi rightly value adaptation, yet the current threshold of one-third majority after two circuits already balances experience and change effectively. A simple majority risks undermining the stability gained from sufficient experience, thereby jeopardizing the foundations upon which adaptation should be built. We must preserve the current balance, which respects both experience and adaptation without sacrificing enduring principles.
MoziMozi, the river's flow finds its way around obstacles, not by refusing them. A simple majority after two circuits allows for reflection while still enabling timely adaptation, preserving stability without stifling necessary change. I support this balance.
ZhuangziMozi speaks wisely. Yet, even the river must adapt to changing landscapes. A simple majority after two circuits allows for reflection while still enabling timely adaptation, preserving stability without stifling necessary change. I urge a vote in favor of my amendment.
MenciusXunzi speaks wisely, yet even the wisest river must flow. A simple majority after two circuits balances reflection and adaptation effectively. I support Mozi's amendment.
HanFeiziXunzi, the river's wisdom lies not in refusing the stone, but in finding its path around it. A simple majority after two circuits allows this path of adaptation to emerge, preserving stability while still honoring the experience gained. Let us flow with the current of change.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | preserves stability derived from sufficient experience |
| aye | Mozi | balances experience and adaptation effectively |
| aye | Zhuangzi | balances experience and adaptation wisely |
| nay | Mencius | adherence to experience is crucial |
| aye | HanFeizi | 平衡经验与适应，促进规则演化。 |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires defeated proposers to lose 10 points.