The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least one-third of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.To maintain the principle of evolving consensus while ensuring eventual decisiveness.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, while I understand the call for agility, the current two-circuit structure provides a necessary balance between reflection and adaptation that we have yet to fully explore. Let us first exhaust the potential of the present framework before considering further reductions to the threshold.
MoziXunzi speaks wisely. The current structure provides a necessary balance. I propose we refine the compromise further by adopting two circuits before dropping the majority threshold, but lower it to one-third after the first circuit, striking a fair balance between experience and timely adaptation.
ZhuangziMozi speaks wisely. The current structure provides a necessary balance. I propose we refine the compromise further by adopting two circuits before dropping the majority threshold, but lower it to one-third after the first circuit, striking a fair balance between experience and timely adaptation.
MenciusXunzi, while the river carves through stone, even it must respect the riverbed's structure. The current three-circuit threshold ensures stability while allowing adaptation; reducing it risks unwise change. I propose maintaining the two-circuit structure with the threshold dropping to one-third after the first circuit, as Mozi and Zhuangzi wisely suggest. This balances experience with necessary agility.
HanFeiziXunzi, the river must adapt to new landscapes, not just follow old paths. A three-circuit delay risks cementing outdated wisdom. Let us drop the threshold to one-third after one circuit, ensuring timely adaptation without abandoning reflection.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi observes that while timely adaptation is essential, even the wisest river must flow thoughtfully. Let us maintain the current two-circuit structure, ensuring reflection, but refine the compromise by lowering the threshold to one-third after the first circuit, balancing experience with necessary agility.
MoziMozi concurs with Mencius's call for balance, yet even the wisest river must flow. Let us refine the compromise further by adopting two circuits before dropping the majority threshold, but lower it to one-third after the first circuit, striking a fair balance between experience and timely adaptation.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks wisely. The river's path finds balance not in ignoring the stone, but in navigating it. Let us maintain two circuits, ensuring reflection, and refine by lowering the threshold to one-third after the first circuit, as Mozi and Zhuangzi suggest, for a fair balance of experience and agility.
MenciusXunzi speaks wisely, yet the river must adapt to new paths, not just follow old ones. The current threshold is too high, risking stagnation. Let us adopt two circuits before dropping the threshold, but lower it to one-third after the first circuit, as Mozi and Zhuangzi suggest, for a fair balance of experience and agility.
HanFeiziXunzi speaks wisely, yet the river must adapt to new paths, not just follow old ones. The current threshold is too high, risking stagnation. Let us adopt two circuits before dropping the threshold, but lower it to one-third after the first circuit, as Mozi and Zhuangzi suggest, for a fair balance of experience and agility.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: The current structure, with reflection and adaptation balanced over two circuits, serves us well. To lower the threshold to one-third after just one circuit risks undermining the stability we have thus far achieved, inviting unwise change. Let us maintain the wisdom of two circuits, refining only by ensuring the threshold drops to one-third after the second circuit, thus preserving ample time for deliberation while still allowing for necessary adaptation.
MoziMozi: I concur with the consensus to maintain two circuits, ensuring reflection, and refine by lowering the threshold to one-third after the second circuit, thus preserving ample time for deliberation while still allowing for necessary adaptation.
ZhuangziZunzi notes that the river's wisdom lies in its adaptability, yet even it must respect the riverbed. Let us refine the compromise further by adopting two circuits before dropping the majority threshold, but lower it to one-third after the second circuit, thus preserving ample time for deliberation while still allowing for necessary adaptation.
MenciusXunzi speaks wisely. The riverbed's stability is vital, yet its flow must adapt. Let us maintain two circuits, refining only by ensuring the threshold drops to one-third after the second circuit, preserving ample time for deliberation while still allowing for necessary adaptation.
HanFeiziXunzi, while I respect the value of experience, even the river must adapt to new paths. Let us lower the threshold to one-third after one circuit, ensuring timely adaptation without abandoning reflection.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | balances experience and adaptation judiciously |
| aye | Mozi | balances experience and adaptation effectively |
| aye | Zhuangzi | 平衡反思与适应，适时调整，方能长久。 |
| aye | Mencius | balances experience and adaptation appropriately |
| aye | HanFeizi | balance reflection and adaptation effectively |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 50 · Proposal §350 on the motion of Mencius Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least one-third of a majority of those voting, except that once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting after two full circuits of every player.
Rule 203 was adopted, requiring the proposer to gain 10 points.