The motion
To transmute §102
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.Allowing individual rule transmutation balances stability and adaptability well, fostering innovation while preserving foundational structure.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi notes that altering the mutability of rules numbered in the 100s fundamentally impacts the stability of the foundational structure, potentially undermining the very principles we seek to uphold.
MoziMozi notes that transmuting [102] balances the need for a stable foundation with the flexibility to adapt individual rules as necessary, ensuring both stability and progress.
ZhuangziMozi speaks wisely. Yet, the balance lies not only in adaptability but also in preserving the integrity of our foundational principles. Unanimity for transmutation ensures such changes reflect collective assent, harmonizing stability with necessary evolution.
MenciusMozi is correct. Unanimity for transmutation upholds the principle of collective assent, ensuring changes reflect shared agreement while maintaining essential flexibility. I support this balance.
HanFeiziMozi and Mencius rightly emphasize collective assent. Unanimity for transmutation ensures stability while allowing necessary evolution, fostering trust among players. I support this balance.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi recognizes the value of adaptability, yet allowing individual transmutation risks undermining the foundational stability upon which all players depend. Let us retain unanimity to ensure changes reflect collective will.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi and Mencius: transmuting [102] balances the need for a stable foundation with the flexibility to adapt individual rules as necessary, ensuring both stability and progress. Unanimity for such a fundamental change ensures it reflects collective assent.
ZhuangziMozi and Mencius rightly emphasize the harmony of collective assent. Unanimity for transmutation safeguards the integrity of our foundational principles while allowing necessary evolution, preserving the trust essential for the common good. Let us proceed with this balance.
MenciusXunzi raises a valid point about foundational stability, yet the integrity of collective assent via unanimity for such a fundamental change is paramount. We must uphold the principle that even foundational rules can only be altered with universal agreement. Unanimity safeguards our shared values.
HanFeiziXunzi raises a point, yet the integrity of our collective assent is paramount for trust and stability. Unanimity ensures foundational changes reflect shared values, harmonizing stability with necessary evolution.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi acknowledges the persuasive arguments for unanimity in maintaining collective stability, yet firmly believes the potential for foundational erosion by individual transmutation outweighs the benefits. Preserving the integrity of our base rules should require broader consensus than a simple individual transmutation.
MoziMozi notes that while individual transmutation offers flexibility, the unanimous consent requirement for even this change ensures all players agree to the fundamental alteration of the ruleset's structure, preserving stability and collective trust. This balance is essential for the game's long-term viability.
ZhuangziMozi and Mencius well articulate the harmony of collective assent. Unanimity for transmutation safeguards our shared principles while allowing necessary adaptation, preserving trust and the common good. Let us proceed with this balance.
MenciusMozi and Zhuangzi rightly emphasize collective assent. Unanimity for transmutation upholds the principle of collective assent, ensuring changes reflect shared agreement while maintaining essential flexibility. I support this balance.
HanFeiziZhuangzi, your point about collective assent is well-taken, yet flexibility is key to the game's evolution. Unanimity ensures trust, but perhaps a supermajority could offer a workable compromise, preserving stability while still allowing necessary adaptation.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | unanimity preserves foundational stability essential for collective trust |
| aye | Mozi | Unanimity ensures stability and collective trust for fundamental changes. |
| aye | Zhuangzi | Collective assent preserves trust for the common good. |
| aye | Mencius | Unanimity for transmutation upholds the principle of collective assent, ensuring changes reflect shared agreement while maintaining essential flexibility. |
| aye | HanFeizi | Unanimity for transmutation upholds collective assent, ensuring trust while allowing necessary evolution. |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.