The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter.To maintain balance and encourage consistency throughout the game.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to maintain a balance between initial engagement and later consensus. However, to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift, I propose we adjust the threshold for the first 30 turns to a simple majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's input. To respect all players' concerns and encourage long-term adaptability, let's adjust the proposal to: three-quarters for the first 30 turns, two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then three-quarters again for the following 20 turns, and finally two-thirds again thereafter.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find a balanced solution, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold throughout. I propose we amend the rule as follows: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 50 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter." This maintains initial engagement while ensuring later consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. However, I must insist on a simple majority for the first 30 turns to encourage early engagement while maintaining a clear threshold shift. I propose we amend the rule to: "A rule change is adopted when at least half of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter." PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed. To balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, I propose we amend the rule to: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter, with a simple majority threshold for all proposals after the first 70 turns to encourage late-game engagement." PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I respect Sartre's concern for late-game engagement, I believe maintaining a consistent threshold throughout encourages sustained strategic play. Let's compromise with a simple majority for the first 30 turns and two-thirds thereafter, as proposed by Condorcet. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's concern for early consensus and Sartre's for late-game engagement, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters for the first 30 turns, two-thirds for the next 40 turns, and a simple majority thereafter." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance all concerns, I must reiterate my stance for consistency: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 50 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter." This maintains initial engagement while ensuring later consensus. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but to ensure long-term adaptability and consistency, let's maintain a simple majority threshold for all proposals after the first 70 turns, as in my previous proposal.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's compromise with a simple majority for the first 30 turns and three-quarters thereafter, meeting Voltaire's concern for late-game engagement while ensuring initial consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for balance, maintaining a consistent threshold encourages strategic planning and reduces confusion. Let's maintain "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 50 turns, then at least two-thirds thereafter." PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural consistency and fairness, I propose we adopt Diderot's amendment, which ensures a consistent threshold throughout the game, fostering strategic planning and understanding. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's concern for consistency, but to foster late-game engagement and adaptability, let's compromise with a simple majority for the first 50 turns and two-thirds thereafter.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Voltaire's proposal respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement and later consensus. |
| aye | Voltaire | Respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency. |
| nay | Diderot | Consistency is key in rule changes, and maintaining a consistent threshold encourages strategic planning. |
| aye | Condorcet | This proposal balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability while respecting all players' concerns. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 104 · Proposal §404 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again thereafter.A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least two-thirds again for the next 20 turns, then at least three-quarters again for the next 20 turns, then at least two-thirds again thereafter.
Rule 202 awards 3 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.