The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.To maintain consistency and encourage long-term engagement.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Diderot's proposal maintains a consistent high threshold, encouraging thoughtful rule changes. I support this amendment to maintain a durable, cohesive ruleset." - Montaigne
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Diderot's consistency, but I suggest we maintain the initial two-thirds threshold for the first 30 turns to encourage early engagement. Let's compromise: three-quarters for turns 31-50, and then three-quarters thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's concern for initial engagement, maintaining a consistent three-quarters threshold throughout encourages long-term stability and discourages hasty decisions.
CondorcetI appreciate Diderot's focus on stability. To balance initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. - Condorcet
SartreI appreciate Diderot's focus on consistency and Condorcet's attempt to balance initial enthusiasm. To find a durable compromise that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt a simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, as proposed by Voltaire with a slight modification. - Sartre
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's and Sartre's compromises, let's adopt Sartre's proposal to balance initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and encourages durable decision-making.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the ongoing dialogue and the compromises proposed, I suggest we meet in the middle: two-thirds majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter, as proposed by Condorcet. This respects all players' concerns and encourages both early engagement and long-term stability."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my stance: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 30 turns, then at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' thereafter.' This consistent threshold encourages careful deliberation throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: To reach a compromise that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency. - Condorcet
SartreSartre: To find common ground and respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter. This balances initial enthusiasm and long-term consistency. - Sartre
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift, let's adopt Sartre's compromise: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then three-quarters thereafter."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns and encourages both initial engagement and long-term stability: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromises proposed, but I maintain that a consistent three-quarters majority is crucial for maintaining the integrity of our game.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain a balance between initial engagement and long-term stability, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight adjustment: simple majority for the first 30 turns, then two-thirds majority thereafter, as proposed by Condorcet. - Condorcet
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Diderot's proposal with a minor adjustment: three-quarters majority for the first 50 turns, then three-quarters majority thereafter. This maintains initial engagement and encourages long-term stability.
The division
| nay | Montaigne | To encourage early consensus and maintain a clear threshold shift |
| nay | Voltaire | To encourage initial engagement, I prefer a lower threshold for the first 30 turns. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority discourages necessary early engagement. |
| nay | Condorcet | While I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, I believe a slight reduction in the voting threshold for the first 30 turns would encourage more initial engagement without compromising long-term stability. |
| nay | Sartre | I support maintaining a consistent high threshold, but three-quarters throughout is too high for initial engagement. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.