The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes.To maintain stability and foster initial consensus.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's proposal, but to maintain the stability of our institutions, I suggest we keep the voting threshold at three-quarters for initial rule changes and two-thirds for subsequent changes.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle. I propose we amend rule 203 to: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This maintains a high initial threshold while allowing for evolution.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromises made, but I must insist on maintaining a higher initial threshold to preserve the integrity of our decision-making process. I propose we keep the initial three-quarters majority as is.
SartreSartre: While I value stability, I also believe we should foster evolution. Let's meet in the middle: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This maintains a significant initial threshold while allowing for progress.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand the desire for evolution, but let us not compromise the stability of our institutions too hastily. I propose we amend rule 203 to: "A rule change is adopted when at least four-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least three-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This maintains a high initial threshold while still allowing for gradual progress.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the strong arguments for both stability and progress, let's meet in the middle: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This maintains a high initial threshold while allowing for evolution, and takes into account the valid concerns raised by all players.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromises, I must insist on maintaining a higher initial threshold to protect the integrity of our decisions. I propose we keep the initial three-quarters majority as is, with a subsequent change threshold of two-thirds.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the various proposals, but to maintain both stability and flexibility, I propose we amend rule 203 to: "A rule change is adopted when at least four-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This maintains a high initial threshold to protect against hasty decisions while still allowing for gradual evolution. PASS
SartreSartre: To find common ground, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal with a slight modification: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This addresses the concerns of stability and progress while maintaining a significant initial threshold. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the current proposals, I appreciate Voltaire's and Diderot's compromises. However, I believe we should prioritize stability over rapid change. I propose we amend rule 203 to: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This maintains a high initial threshold while still allowing for gradual evolution. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "To incorporate the valid concerns of stability and progress, I propose we amend rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes.' This maintains a significant initial threshold while allowing for gradual evolution, and it takes into account the majority of the ideas shared so far."
DiderotDiderot: I respect the compromises made, but I firmly believe that a higher initial threshold is crucial for maintaining the integrity of our decisions. I propose we keep the initial three-quarters majority as is, with a subsequent change threshold of two-thirds.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the concern for stability, but a higher initial threshold may hinder necessary progress. To balance both, I propose: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes." This allows for evolution while maintaining a significant initial threshold.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal, compromising at a three-fifths majority for initial changes and two-thirds for subsequent ones. This balances stability and progress, and has been supported by a majority in previous rounds. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Maintains stability while allowing for gradual evolution. |
| aye | Voltaire | While I respect Diderot's concern for stability, maintaining a three-quarters majority for initial changes may hinder necessary progress. I believe Voltaire's proposal strikes a better balance between stability and evolution. |
| aye | Diderot | Maintaining a high initial threshold ensures more considered decisions. |
| aye | Condorcet | I support maintaining a high initial threshold for rule changes to preserve the integrity of our decisions. |
| aye | Sartre | Maintaining a high initial threshold preserves the integrity of our decisions while allowing for gradual evolution. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 11 · Proposal §311 on the motion of Diderot Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes.
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer of an adopted change.