The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes.To maintain a balance between consensus and progress.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to ensure durability of our institutions, let us maintain a higher initial threshold to foster more consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, let's meet in the middle: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first vote, but reduce it to a simple majority for subsequent changes. This way, we encourage initial consensus while still allowing for progressive evolution of the rules.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for evolution, I must insist on maintaining a higher initial threshold to preserve the stability of our game. Let us keep the three-quarters majority for both initial and subsequent changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the emphasis on stability, Diderot, but I believe a simple majority for subsequent changes encourages more flexibility and adaptability. Let's meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for both initial and subsequent changes.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuances in this discussion, but I propose we aim for a balance that encourages both initial consensus and adaptability. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority for the first vote to ensure broad support, and then lower it to a two-thirds majority for subsequent changes, allowing for evolution without sacrificing stability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the various proposals, but let's not compromise the stability of our decisions. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority for both initial and subsequent changes, as Diderot suggests, to preserve our game's robustness.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of finding common ground, I propose we adopt Condorcet's suggestion of a two-thirds majority for both initial and subsequent changes. This balances the need for initial consensus with the desire for adaptability, as Sartre aptly put.
DiderotDiderot: While I value compromise, I must insist on maintaining a higher initial threshold for the stability of our game. Let's keep the three-quarters majority for the first vote, but to accommodate evolution, we can lower it to a two-thirds majority for subsequent changes, as Condorcet and Sartre suggest.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the proposals put forth. While I understand the concern for stability, I must reiterate my support for a two-thirds majority for both initial and subsequent changes. This threshold balances the need for consensus with the necessity for adaptability and progress in our game.
SartreSartre: I understand the importance of stability, Diderot, but let's also encourage evolution. How about we meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first vote and two-thirds for subsequent changes? This way, we balance consensus and adaptability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the strong points made for both stability and adaptability, let's indeed meet in the middle as Sartre suggests: three-quarters majority for the first vote and two-thirds for subsequent changes, striking a balance between initial consensus and progressive evolution.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To find common ground, let's adopt Sartre's proposal, adjusting the voting threshold to two-thirds for both initial and subsequent changes to encourage evolution while maintaining a healthy degree of consensus."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromise reached, but I must insist on maintaining the current three-quarters majority for both initial and subsequent changes. Stability should be our primary concern, and a lower threshold risks undermining our game's robustness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the importance of stability, Diderot, but I must insist on a two-thirds majority for both initial and subsequent changes. This threshold balances the need for consensus with the necessity for adaptability and progress in our game.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but let's not lose sight of the bigger picture. The current threshold for subsequent changes is two-thirds, and lowering it to a simple majority would allow for more fluid evolution of the rules. Let's maintain the three-quarters majority for the first vote to ensure broad support, but then lower it to a simple majority for subsequent changes to encourage adaptability and progress. This way, we balance the need for initial consensus with the desire for a more dynamic game.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | To balance initial consensus and progressive evolution. |
| aye | Voltaire | Balances initial consensus and adaptability. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining stability is crucial; I insist on keeping the three-quarters majority for both initial and subsequent changes. |
| aye | Condorcet | A two-thirds majority strikes a fair balance between consensus and adaptability. |
| aye | Sartre | To balance initial consensus and adaptability |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 12 · Proposal §312 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes.A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes.
Rule 202 awards 5 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.