The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least four-fifths of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least three-quarters for any subsequent changes.To maintain stability while allowing for necessary evolution.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"While I appreciate Voltaire's push for further stability, a four-fifths initial majority may hinder progress. I propose we meet in the middle at three-quarters, maintaining a balance between consensus and adaptability."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's concern for balance. To find common ground, let's adopt Montaigne's proposal, adjusting the subsequent changes threshold to two-thirds."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the discussion, but I believe a four-fifths initial majority is crucial for maintaining the stability of our game. A lower threshold risks frequent and disruptive changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I understand the desire for stability, a four-fifths majority may be too high, especially for subsequent changes. I propose we compromise at three-quarters for the first vote and two-thirds for subsequent changes to balance progress and consensus."
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced debate. To encourage both stability and evolution, I propose we adopt Condorcet's compromise: three-quarters for the first vote, and two-thirds for subsequent changes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate the thoughtful proposals. To further encourage initial consensus and maintain balance, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal of three-quarters for the first vote and two-thirds for subsequent changes."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the valid concerns expressed, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first vote, and adjust the subsequent changes threshold to two-thirds, as proposed by Condorcet."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromises made, I must insist on maintaining a four-fifths initial majority to ensure the longevity and stability of our game. I am open to negotiation on the subsequent changes threshold, but I believe a higher initial threshold is crucial.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Diderot's concern for stability, but a four-fifths majority may indeed hinder progress. Given the current score and our proximity to the target, I propose we compromise at three-quarters for the first vote to balance the need for consensus and the urgency of our goal.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To balance the need for stability and the urgency of our goal, I propose we settle on a three-quarters majority for both the first vote and subsequent changes, with a provision for reevaluation if we find the threshold too rigid as we approach the target score.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the strong arguments for both stability and adaptability, let's indeed meet in the middle at three-quarters for both the first vote and subsequent changes, with a clause allowing for reevaluation as we approach the target score, as proposed by Sartre.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and considering our proximity to the target score, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest suggestion: a three-quarters majority for both the first vote and subsequent changes, with a clause allowing for reevaluation as needed. This balances our desire for stability with the urgency of our goal."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the need for adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a four-fifths initial majority to preserve the integrity of our game. I propose we compromise by keeping the subsequent changes threshold at two-thirds, as originally suggested by Condorcet.
CondorcetCondorcet: To preserve the principles of both stability and progress, I propose we adopt Voltaire's latest suggestion, maintaining a three-quarters majority for both the first vote and subsequent changes, with a clause allowing for reevaluation as we approach the target score. This balance is essential for our current stage in the game.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the compromise reached, but to ensure both stability and adaptability, I propose we keep the initial majority at three-quarters and adjust subsequent changes to a simple majority. This encourages initial consensus while allowing for necessary evolution as we approach the target score.
The division
| nay | Montaigne | A four-fifths initial majority may hinder progress |
| aye | Voltaire | Encourages initial consensus while allowing for necessary evolution. |
| nay | Diderot | I must insist on maintaining a four-fifths initial majority for the stability of our game. |
| nay | Condorcet | A four-fifths majority may hinder progress, especially given our proximity to the target score. |
| nay | Sartre | A four-fifths majority may hinder necessary evolution as we approach the target score. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeated proposal.