The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority. In the event of a tied vote, the proposal fails and no points are gained or lost by the proposer. (This rule is mutable.)To balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, and to prevent indecisive votes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Let's adopt Voltaire's proposal, striking a balance between predictability and engagement while also addressing tied votes.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's support, I propose a slight modification: 'In the event of a tied vote, the proposal fails and no points are gained or lost by the proposer, and the vote is retaken after a short pause.'"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the spirit of compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent three-quarters majority throughout to ensure predictability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's and Montaigne's compromise, but I agree with Diderot that a consistent three-quarters majority provides the best balance between predictability and engagement. PASS
SartreSartre: Sartre - "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe Voltaire's latest proposal strikes a fair balance between predictability, engagement, and avoiding deadlocks. Let's adopt it."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Voltaire's and Sartre's compromises, but I must insist on a middle ground: a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority with no retakes on tied votes to maintain predictability and fairness."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering all viewpoints, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority. On tied votes, we'll not retake the vote but rather declare it a draw, with no points gained or lost by the proposer."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the ongoing dialogue, I must reiterate my stance for consistency. Let's maintain a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout ensures fairness and predictability, as Diderot has consistently argued. PASS
SartreSartre: "I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's commitment to consistency, but Voltaire's latest proposal offers a practical solution to tied votes without compromising engagement. Let's adopt it with a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority with no retakes on tied votes."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority with no retakes on tied votes to encourage engagement while preserving fairness and predictability."
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address Diderot's and Condorcet's concerns for predictability, I propose we amend the proposal to: 'A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority. In the event of a tied vote, the proposal fails and no points are gained or lost by the proposer.'"
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout for fairness and predictability. However, to address tied votes, I propose: 'In the event of a tied vote, the proposal fails, and the proposer loses 5 points.' This maintains consistency while penalizing indecision."
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain fairness, predictability, and engagement, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority, and declare tied votes as draws with no points gained or lost. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's concern for fairness, but losing points for a tied vote seems harsh. Let's compromise with a simple 'no points gained or lost' on tied votes, maintaining the two-thirds majority for the first 70 turns and a simple majority thereafter, as suggested by Voltaire and myself."
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Balances initial engagement and long-term consistency while addressing tied votes. |
| aye | Voltaire | Compromises all concerns while addressing tied votes. |
| nay | Diderot | I must maintain my stance for consistency and insist on a three-quarters majority throughout. |
| aye | Condorcet | The proposed amendment balances predictability, engagement, and addresses tied votes effectively. |
| aye | Sartre | Sartre - I appreciate the compromise and the solution to tied votes. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 149 · Proposal §449 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority.A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote aye for the first 70 turns, then a simple majority. In the event of a tied vote, the proposal fails and no points are gained or lost by the proposer. (This rule is mutable.)
Rule 202 awards 5 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.