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§ Turn 15

Moved by Voltairethree-quarters of eligible voters must vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes
The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes.

To maintain initial consensus while allowing for adaptability.

The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneIn the interest of maintaining a balance between stability and adaptability, I propose we amend rule 203 to require a two-thirds majority for the first time and maintain it for any subsequent changes. This would ensure a strong initial consensus while still allowing for evolution. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise and considering our proximity to the target score, I propose we amend rule 203 as Montaigne suggested, lowering the threshold to two-thirds for both initial and subsequent changes. This maintains a healthy level of consensus while allowing for necessary flexibility.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the emphasis on adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a higher initial threshold. I propose we amend rule 203 to require at least three-quarters of eligible voters to vote 'aye' for the first time, and maintain a two-thirds majority for any subsequent changes to balance stability and progress.
CondorcetCondorcet: In the spirit of compromise, let us adopt Voltaire's proposal with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for initial changes to preserve stability, and a simple majority for subsequent changes to allow for necessary evolution.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced discussion, but to ensure durability and avoid constant fluctuations in the voting threshold, I propose we maintain the current three-quarters majority for the first time and two-thirds for any subsequent changes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the various proposals, but let's not compromise the stability of our decisions. I propose we keep the initial three-quarters majority for the first time and two-thirds for subsequent changes to balance adaptability and durability.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the strong points made for both stability and adaptability, let's indeed meet in the middle and amend rule 203 as Condorcet suggested: a two-thirds majority for initial changes to preserve stability, and a simple majority for subsequent changes to allow for necessary evolution. This maintains a healthy level of consensus while allowing for the flexibility we need as we approach the target score.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromises made thus far, but I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a higher initial threshold of three-quarters majority. This ensures a stronger consensus before allowing for subsequent changes with a two-thirds majority.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise suggested by Voltaire, but to maintain the procedural integrity of our ruleset, I propose we keep the initial three-quarters majority for the first time. This ensures a broader consensus before allowing for subsequent changes with a two-thirds majority. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand the value of consensus, but to encourage innovation and prevent stagnation, I propose we amend rule 203 to require a two-thirds majority for initial changes, allowing for a simple majority for subsequent changes. This balances stability with the need for progress.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the desire for flexibility, I maintain that a three-quarters majority for the first time ensures a broader consensus and protects against hasty decisions. I propose we keep the initial threshold high to preserve the durability of our institutions.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle and amend rule 203 to require a three-fifths majority for the first time, and a simple majority for subsequent changes. This maintains a significant initial consensus while allowing for the necessary flexibility as we near the target score.
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromises made, I must insist on maintaining the current three-quarters majority for the first time. This threshold ensures a robust consensus before allowing for subsequent changes with a two-thirds majority, balancing stability and progress.
CondorcetCondorcet: To uphold my proceduralist principles, I must insist on maintaining the highest initial threshold for consensus, which is three-quarters majority for the first time. This ensures that our rules changes have the broadest support possible, promoting stability and fairness in our game. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises made, but I believe we must prioritize progress and adaptability. I propose we amend rule 203 to require a simple majority for initial changes, allowing for a two-thirds majority for subsequent changes. This will ensure that our ruleset evolves to meet the needs of the game while still maintaining a level of stability.
The division
ayeMontaigneBalances stability and adaptability.
ayeVoltaireVoltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between stability and adaptability, and I appreciate his efforts to find common ground.
nayDiderotMaintaining a higher initial threshold ensures broader consensus and protects against hasty decisions.
ayeCondorcetTo balance stability and adaptability.
ayeSartreTo balance stability and adaptability, a two-thirds majority is sufficient for both initial and subsequent changes.

carried 4 aye · 1 nay

As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 15 · Proposal §315 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes.A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes.

Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without their assent.