The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes, with the threshold shifting to a simple majority once the first rule change is adopted.To balance initial consensus and adaptability
The floor
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "To encourage adaptability and consensus, let's adopt my proposal. It preserves the initial two-thirds majority for the first change, then shifts to a simple majority for subsequent changes, fostering evolution and stability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the consideration for stability and evolution, I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure durability of our institutions.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand Voltaire's desire for adaptability, I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds majority throughout the game as a principle of procedural fairness.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's and Diderot's perspectives. To balance adaptability and stability, let's set the initial threshold at four-fifths, shifting to a simple majority after the first change, as a compromise that respects both views.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the nuanced discussion. To preserve our durable institutions and encourage initial consensus, I propose we adopt a three-quarters majority throughout, with a slight modification: once the first change is adopted, the threshold shifts to four-fifths for subsequent changes.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the diverse perspectives. To incorporate the valid concerns of stability and evolution, let's amend my proposal to set the initial threshold at three-quarters, shifting to a simple majority after the first change is adopted. This way, we maintain initial consensus while encouraging adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromises made, I must insist on maintaining the current three-quarters majority throughout the game to preserve stability and prevent sudden, drastic changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromises made, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds majority throughout the game, as it ensures a robust consensus.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, but to further encourage initial support and consensus, I propose we revert to the previous proposal of a three-quarters majority initially, shifting to a simple majority after the first change is adopted. This maintains a higher threshold for the first critical decision while still allowing for adaptability later in the game.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the desire for initial consensus, I maintain that a three-quarters majority is essential for our durable institutions. However, to encourage adaptability, I propose we shift to a four-fifths majority after the first change is adopted, as a compromise that respects both views.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle and adopt Montaigne's latest proposal. A three-quarters majority initially, shifting to four-fifths after the first change, encourages both initial consensus and adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to balance stability and adaptability, I must insist that maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout the game ensures a robust consensus and prevents sudden, drastic changes that could undermine our collective well-being.
CondorcetCondorcet: As a proceduralist, I maintain that the threshold should not shift after the first change. I propose we return to a two-thirds majority throughout the game, as it strikes the best balance between consensus and adaptability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability and Condorcet's principle of fairness. To accommodate both, I propose we maintain a three-quarters majority throughout the game, but allow one rule change per turn with a simple majority vote, provided it is proposed by the player whose turn it is. This compromise respects initial consensus while allowing for necessary evolution.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Preserves initial consensus while encouraging adaptability. |
| aye | Voltaire | Encourages adaptability while maintaining initial consensus. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining two-thirds majority throughout ensures stability and prevents drastic changes. |
| aye | Condorcet | Voltaire's proposal balances initial consensus and adaptability, aligning with my principles as a proceduralist. |
| aye | Sartre | Voltaire's proposal strikes a fair balance between initial consensus and adaptability, making it a suitable compromise. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 16 · Proposal §316 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes.A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes, with the threshold shifting to a simple majority once the first rule change is adopted.
Rule 202 awards 5 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.