The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.To find a balanced middle ground between predictability and engagement.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne"Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns to ensure stability, but also adopt Voltaire's proposal to switch to a simple majority thereafter for gradual engagement. I propose we amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.'"
VoltaireI appreciate Montaigne's proposal, which balances stability and gradual engagement. To further encourage decisive voting and maintain fairness, I propose we amend Rule 444 to penalize tied votes. My proposal: "A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority. In case of a tied vote, the proposal fails and no points are gained or lost by the proposer."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on the importance of a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to maintain stability and consistency.
CondorcetI appreciate Voltaire's effort to encourage decisive voting, but I maintain that a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes the best balance between stability and engagement. I propose we keep Rule 203 as is, with no changes to Rule 444.
SartreI appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. To further balance engagement and stability, I propose we amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.' This gradual shift allows for more engagement while maintaining initial stability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal, but I believe 180 turns is too gradual a shift. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, as proposed earlier, to preserve initial stability, and then switch to a simple majority to encourage engagement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's and Sartre's input. To address all concerns and find a middle ground, I propose we amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a three-quarters majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' This maintains initial stability while encouraging gradual engagement." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must reiterate my stance for a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to maintain consistency and predictability. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must maintain my stance. A two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns is the most balanced approach, encouraging engagement while preserving initial stability. I propose we keep Rule 203 as is.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's commitment to consistency, but I believe a gradual shift to a simple majority after 170 turns encourages more engagement and dynamism in the game. Let's meet in the middle and amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority.' PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance all concerns, let's amend Rule 203 to: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority, with a three-quarters majority required for any rule change that modifies the voting threshold.' PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's latest proposal to maintain initial stability more strongly: 'A rule change is adopted when a three-quarters majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.' This maintains predictability while encouraging gradual engagement. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I understand the desire for gradual engagement, but maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures greater stability and prevents reckless decision-making. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns to balance stability and engagement. I propose we keep Rule 203 as is, with no changes to Rule 444. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's concern for stability, but a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes a better balance between stability and engagement, as proposed by Condorcet and myself. Let's meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority, as suggested by Montaigne. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Balances stability and engagement, respecting initial consensus. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances stability and engagement while encouraging decisive voting. |
| nay | Diderot | I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure greater stability and prevent reckless decision-making. |
| aye | Condorcet | A two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes the best balance between stability and engagement. |
| aye | Sartre | Sartre's latest proposal respects all players' concerns and strikes a balanced middle ground. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 174 · Proposal §474 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.