The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.To balance predictability and gradual engagement in decision-making.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's effort to maintain predictability, but I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns to ensure stability and prevent hasty decisions.
VoltaireVoltaire: Addressing Montaigne's valid concern, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns to ensure greater consensus and prevent impulsive changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. However, I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout, as it ensures fair representation and prevents majority tyranny.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the balance of concerns. To respect all views and maintain stability, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority. This allows for gradual engagement and prevents hasty decisions while still allowing for progress.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns. Let's adopt it as a middle ground that balances stability, fairness, and progress.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's concern for greater consensus, I propose we amend Sartre's proposal to a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority. This maintains a high threshold for initial changes while allowing for gradual engagement later on.
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns. This ensures the greatest consensus and prevents impulsive changes that could harm the game's balance and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we amend Voltaire's latest proposal to a two-thirds majority throughout, with a gradual shift to a simple majority after turn 170. This respects all players' concerns and ensures a fair and stable decision-making process.
SartreSartre: To address all concerns and find a middle ground that respects stability, fairness, and progress, I propose we amend Voltaire's latest proposal to a three-fifths majority after the first 170 turns. This allows for gradual engagement and prevents hasty decisions while still allowing for progress.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance all concerns and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal: 'A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a three-fifths majority.'
VoltaireVoltaire: "To further accommodate Diderot's concern for consistency, I suggest we amend Condorcet's proposal to maintain a two-thirds majority throughout, with a gradual shift to a three-fifths majority after turn 170."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority throughout ensures the greatest stability and protection against impulsive decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: To uphold procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority throughout, with a gradual shift to a simple majority after turn 170, as previously suggested. This amendment addresses all concerns and ensures a stable, fair decision-making process.
SartreSartre: To foster gradual engagement and respect all players' concerns, I propose we compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the next 10 turns, before finally adopting a simple majority. This maintains a high threshold for initial changes while allowing for gradual adaptation and progress.
The division
| nay | Montaigne | I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but I believe maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns is necessary for stability and fairness. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances stability and progress. |
| nay | Diderot | I insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout for greater stability and protection against impulsive decisions. |
| aye | Condorcet | To respect the balance of arguments and maintain a durable institution. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects gradual engagement while maintaining stability. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.