The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters votes aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
To balance gradual engagement and predictability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I believe maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns provides a more stable environment. However, I'm open to discussing a compromise.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's valid point about stability, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This allows for a slightly longer period of consensus-building while still introducing a gradual increase in passing speed. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure a more robust consensus. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance stability and engagement, I propose we adopt a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns and then a majority for the subsequent turns. PASS
SartreSartre: To foster a balanced and inclusive environment, I propose we adopt Condorcet's suggestion with a small modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. This allows for a longer period of consensus-building while still encouraging gradual engagement.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal, which strikes a balance between stability and engagement. To maintain a durable institution, I propose we adopt Sartre's amendment with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the subsequent turns. This allows for a longer period of consensus-building while still encouraging gradual engagement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Sartre's latest proposal: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the subsequent turns. This amendment respects the balance between stability and engagement while also allowing for a smoother transition to a simpler majority threshold. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures a stronger consensus and prevents hasty decisions. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's commitment to consistency, but a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns strikes a better balance between stability and engagement. Let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal. PASS
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's concern for predictability and Voltaire's for gradual engagement, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority for the subsequent turns. This amendment balances all concerns while ensuring a smoother transition to a more permissive threshold. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns. To balance stability and gradual engagement, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the subsequent turns." PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for the subsequent turns. This amendment balances all concerns while ensuring a stable and inclusive environment. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns to ensure a robust consensus and prevent hasty decisions.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's dedication to robust consensus, but maintaining a three-quarters majority could hinder gradual engagement. To respect all concerns, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for the first 175 turns, then shift to a simple majority. PASS
SartreSartre: To maintain balance and fairness, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the subsequent turns. This respects Diderot's commitment to consistency and Voltaire's concern for gradual engagement. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Respects stability and engagement balance. |
| aye | Voltaire | Respects the balance between stability and engagement while allowing for a smoother transition. |
| nay | Diderot | Three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns ensures a stronger consensus. |
| aye | Condorcet | Respects stability and engagement while gradually increasing passing speed. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects balance between stability and engagement. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 179 · Proposal §479 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters votes aye for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.
Rule 202 awards Voltaire 17 points for proposing an adopted rule change.