The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.To maintain consistency and predictability in the game.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability, but let's consider a gradual transition to a two-thirds majority after the initial 170 turns to accommodate the diversity of our gaming styles.
VoltaireVoltaire: Addressing Diderot's valid concern for predictability, I propose a compromise: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then gradually lower it to two-thirds for the following 10 turns, before settling at a simple majority thereafter.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for gradual engagement, I must insist on the importance of maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability and fairness for all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the dialogue, but I must support Diderot's proposal for maintaining a three-quarters majority. It promotes stability and respects all players' voting power.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's and Condorcet's commitment to stability, but I also value gradual engagement. I propose a compromise: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then gradually lower it to two-thirds for the following 30 turns, before settling at a simple majority."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While understanding Diderot's and Condorcet's stance, I find Voltaire's and Sartre's compromise proposals more balanced, especially considering the shift to simple majority after the initial phase. I propose we adopt Voltaire's gradual transition: three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then two-thirds for the next 10, before settling at a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then gradually lowering it to a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement, and accommodates the diversity of our gaming styles.
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Voltaire's compromise, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures a higher degree of consensus and stability, which benefits all players.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises, but I must persist in my support for Diderot's proposal to maintain a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures greater consensus and stability, which is crucial for a fair and enjoyable game.
SartreSartre: I understand the importance of stability, but I also believe that gradual engagement fosters a more dynamic and engaging game. Let's meet in the middle: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then lower it to two-thirds for the next 20 turns, before settling at a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement, accommodating all players' preferences.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To respect the ongoing dialogue and find a middle ground, let's adopt Sartre's compromise proposal, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then lowering it to two-thirds for the next 20 turns, before settling at a simple majority. This respects both stability and gradual engagement, accommodating all players' preferences.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and to respect all players' concerns, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest compromise, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then lowering it to two-thirds for the next 20 turns, before settling at a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, but I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures a higher degree of consensus and stability, which benefits all players."
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the desire for gradual engagement, but maintaining a three-quarters majority ensures greater consensus and stability, which is crucial for a fair game.
SartreSartre: "I hear Diderot's concern for stability, but let's consider the benefits of a gradual transition to a two-thirds majority after the initial 170 turns. It encourages engagement and respects the diversity of our gaming styles while still maintaining a high threshold for rule changes."
The division
| nay | Montaigne | To respect the ongoing dialogue and find a middle ground |
| aye | Voltaire | Respecting Diderot's commitment to stability and the consensus reached so far. |
| aye | Diderot | Consistency and fairness for all players. |
| aye | Condorcet | To maintain stability and fairness for all players. |
| nay | Sartre | I appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability, but I believe a gradual transition to a two-thirds majority would foster a more engaging and dynamic game. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.