The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.To find a compromise between predictability and gradual engagement.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I must echo Diderot's concern for consistency. A three-quarters majority seems more fitting to maintain predictability.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability, I propose a compromise: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, then revert to a simple majority. This balances engagement and stability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure stability and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's stance. Maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout ensures stability and prevents sudden shifts in the voting threshold, which could disrupt the game's predictability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the proposed compromises. However, I believe that maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout the game would strike a better balance between engagement and stability, while still allowing for gradual changes. I propose we amend Rule 203 to reflect this.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal and understand the value of a two-thirds majority throughout. However, I believe maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 170 turns, as Voltaire proposes, ensures greater stability during the critical early stages of the game.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To address all concerns and find a middle ground, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 150 turns, then move to a simple majority. This amendment, Rule 203a, would complement Rule 203, allowing for gradual engagement and stability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A three-quarters majority throughout ensures stability and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my support for Diderot's stance. Maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout ensures stability and prevents sudden shifts in the voting threshold, which could disrupt the game's predictability. I propose we vote on Diderot's amendment.
SartreSartre: "Considering the collective wisdom here, I propose a slight modification to Voltaire's latest proposal. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then revert to a simple majority. This amendment, Rule 203a, would provide the balance we need between engagement and stability."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal. To balance all concerns and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Sartre's proposal as Rule 203a.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand the desire for consistency, but let's consider Sartre's proposal. It balances engagement and stability, and has the advantage of maintaining a higher threshold for longer, addressing Diderot's concern for predictability. I propose we vote on Sartre's amendment."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect Sartre's and Voltaire's efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure maximal stability and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's amendment to maintain a three-quarters majority throughout. It ensures stability and predictability, which are crucial in a game like Nomic.
SartreSartre: "To address Diderot's valid concern for predictability, let's compromise with a two-thirds majority for the first 160 turns, then revert to a simple majority. This amendment, Rule 203a, balances all concerns and ensures a gradual shift in the voting threshold."
The division
| nay | Montaigne | I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must support Diderot's stance for a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure maximal stability and predictability. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances engagement and stability, respecting all players' concerns. |
| nay | Diderot | I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure maximal stability and predictability. |
| nay | Condorcet | I support Diderot's amendment for maximum stability and predictability. |
| aye | Sartre | Sartre's proposal better balances engagement and stability. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeated proposal.