The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.
To balance engagement and stability, as per consensus.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the extension of the two-thirds majority period, let's consider a middle ground at 175 turns to respect both predictability and gradual engagement.
VoltaireVoltaire: To address Montaigne's valid concern and maintain balance, I propose a compromise: extend the two-thirds majority period to 178 turns.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns to ensure stability and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the search for balance. However, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns could hinder gradual engagement. I propose we adopt Montaigne's suggestion of 175 turns to balance predictability and engagement.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced discussion. To balance predictability, gradual engagement, and stability, I propose we compromise at 177 turns. This respects Diderot's concern for stability while allowing for more gradual engagement than Montaigne's suggestion.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal as it attempts to balance all concerns. To find a durable solution, let's meet in the middle at 176 turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's effort to find a middle ground. To further accommodate Diderot's concern for stability, I propose we settle on 177 turns as a compromise that respects all players' concerns.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns to ensure stability and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To balance predictability, gradual engagement, and the consensus reached so far, I propose we adopt Sartre's suggestion of 177 turns.
SartreSartre: To accommodate Diderot's concern for stability and respect the consensus, I propose we amend the proposal to read: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 178 turns, then a simple majority." This way, we maintain a high threshold for the first 178 turns, allowing for gradual engagement while ensuring stability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all players' concerns, I propose we adopt Sartre's latest compromise of 177 turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, which respects all players' concerns. To further balance engagement and stability, I propose we meet at 177 turns.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns to ensure stability and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise proposed by Sartre and Voltaire. To respect the balance of arguments and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Sartre's proposal of 177 turns.
SartreSartre: To further accommodate Diderot's concern for stability, I propose we amend the proposal to read: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 175 turns, then a simple majority." This way, we maintain an even higher threshold for the first 175 turns, allowing for gradual engagement while ensuring stability, and is closer to Diderot's position.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Respects balance of arguments and maintains a durable institution. |
| aye | Voltaire | Respects all players' concerns and balances engagement and stability. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns ensures stability and predictability. |
| aye | Condorcet | Respects balance of arguments and maintains a durable institution. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects balance, gradual engagement, and stability. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 187 · Proposal §487 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 170 turns, then a simple majority.A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.