The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.To balance Diderot's concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal to reduce the majority required after turn 180, but I suggest we maintain a two-thirds majority throughout to preserve stability.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's valid concern for stability, I propose we compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shift to a three-fifths majority to encourage more engagement.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority for the entire game to ensure predictability and stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining a simple majority voting threshold throughout to ensure fair representation and prevent stagnation.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the search for balance. To respect all players' concerns, I propose we adopt Condorcet's proposal for a simple majority throughout, with a new rule that allows players to propose a change to the voting threshold every 30 turns, ensuring adaptability without compromising stability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal for adaptability. To balance this with durability, I suggest a rule allowing a voting threshold change every 50 turns, instead of 30, and requiring a two-thirds majority to enact the change.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Sartre's and Montaigne's input. To further balance engagement and stability, I propose we amend Sartre's proposal to require a two-thirds majority for changing the voting threshold every 40 turns, ensuring both adaptability and durability.
DiderotDiderot: "While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure predictability and maintain a fair balance between engagement and stability."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's concern for predictability, but a simple majority ensures fair representation and prevents stagnation.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to stability, but I maintain that a simple majority with periodic adaptability best balances engagement and fairness. To accommodate Diderot's concern, let's allow a voting threshold change every 50 turns, but require a three-quarters majority to enact it.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal, which respects all players' concerns. To balance all concerns and maintain a durable institution, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal for a simple majority throughout, with a new rule that allows players to propose a change to the voting threshold every 40 turns, requiring a two-thirds majority to enact it.
VoltaireVoltaire: To acknowledge Diderot's valid concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far, I propose a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage more engagement, with a new rule allowing a change to the voting threshold every 40 turns, requiring a three-quarters majority to enact it.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority throughout to ensure predictability and maintain a fair balance between engagement and stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I maintain my stance for a simple majority voting threshold throughout, as it ensures fair representation and prevents stagnation. However, I am open to discussing a new rule that allows periodic adjustments to the voting threshold, with a supermajority requirement to enact such changes, as proposed by Sartre and Montaigne.
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's valid concern for predictability, I propose a compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage more engagement, while allowing a change to the voting threshold every 40 turns, requiring a three-quarters majority to enact it.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | To maintain a balance between stability and engagement |
| aye | Voltaire | Respects Diderot's concern for predictability while encouraging engagement. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining a three-quarters majority ensures predictability and a fair balance between engagement and stability. |
| aye | Condorcet | Respects all players' concerns and encourages engagement while maintaining stability. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects balance between engagement and stability. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 188 · Proposal §488 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.