The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a two-thirds majority.To balance predictability and gradual engagement
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: In the spirit of compromise and to respect all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 170 turns and a simple majority thereafter. This respects Diderot's concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far, let's meet in the middle and maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns, then a two-thirds majority. This accommodates both stability and balance.
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the efforts to find common ground, a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns provides too much stability, hindering the game's evolution. I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority throughout to encourage more frequent rule changes and keep the game dynamic."
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I must insist on maintaining a consistent voting threshold throughout. I propose we adopt a simple majority rule change adoption threshold, effective immediately."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate the dialogue, but let's not overlook the original purpose of increasing the threshold: to discourage frivolous proposals. Maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority, strikes a balance between stability and evolution."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Diderot's concern for game dynamism, but let's not compromise the stability gained from the current majority thresholds.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Diderot's concern for dynamism, but a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns balances stability and evolution better than a two-thirds majority throughout. Let's meet in the middle and adopt my proposal.
DiderotDiderot: "I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, but I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout to keep the game balanced and prevent stagnation."
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate all viewpoints, but I must advocate for consistency. A simple majority threshold throughout ensures fairness and predictability."
SartreSartre: Let's consider Diderot's valid concern for dynamism and propose a gradual reduction in the majority required, from three-quarters to two-thirds at turn 150, then to a simple majority at turn 180. This respects stability, encourages evolution, and ensures a smooth transition.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: In the spirit of compromise and respecting all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, which gradually reduces the majority required, providing a balance between stability and evolution.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Diderot's valid concern for dynamism and Sartre's compromise proposal, I suggest we meet in the middle and adopt a three-quarters majority for the first 150 turns, then a two-thirds majority until turn 180, after which a simple majority takes effect. This maintains stability while encouraging gradual evolution.
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the latest compromise, I must insist on maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout to keep the game balanced and prevent stagnation."
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate the nuanced proposals, but I must advocate for a consistent voting threshold that is fair, predictable, and simple to understand. Let's adopt a single majority threshold of two-thirds throughout."
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and adopt Voltaire's latest proposal, maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 150 turns, then a two-thirds majority until turn 180, after which a simple majority takes effect. This balances stability, dynamism, and predictability.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Respecting all players' concerns and finding a balance between stability and evolution. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances stability, dynamism, and predictability. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 180 turns provides too much stability, hindering the game's evolution. |
| nay | Condorcet | Consistency in voting threshold throughout the game ensures fairness and predictability. |
| aye | Sartre | This proposal balances stability and evolution, respecting all players' concerns. |
carried 3 aye · 2 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 189 · Proposal §489 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 3 aye · 2 nay
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a simple majority.A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 180 turns, then a two-thirds majority.
Rule 204 awards 10 points to the proposer when a change passes without unanimous assent.